Compliment of A Intersection B: Find Answer (19)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the complement of the intersection of sets A and B, as well as exploring related set operations involving multiple sets within a defined universe. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and set theory concepts.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to find the complement of |A intersection B| given specific cardinalities and a universe size.
  • Another participant questions the validity of taking the complement of a cardinality, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of the concept.
  • A suggestion is made to visualize the problem with a drawing to aid understanding.
  • A more complex scenario is presented involving multiple sets (A, B, C, D) and their intersections, with a request for guidance on determining how many individuals like all four parties.
  • One participant proposes that if the intersection of all four sets is known, it could simplify the calculations by allowing adjustments to the cardinalities of the individual sets.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem and seeks clarification.
  • A suggestion is made to define a new set E representing individuals who dislike none of the parties, with a reference to set operations that could simplify the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and approaches to the problem, with no consensus on the best method to find the desired complement or the total number of individuals who like all four parties. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain evident.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the mathematical steps necessary to find the complement or the total number of individuals liking all parties, and there are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and relationships between the sets.

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OK, if I have sets such as:

|A| = 7
|B| = 10
|A intersection B| = 5
(And the universe equaled 19)

Then how do you find the compliment of |A intersection B|? And what would the answer be in this case? Thanks.
 
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Do you really want to take the complement of a cardinality?
 
You may find useful to make a drawing of the situation.
 
OK, here is the problem:

If Universe = 19 and:
A = People who dislike NDP
B = People who dislike Liberals
C = People who dislike Conservatives
D = People who dislike Canadian Alliance
|A| = 7
|B| = 10
|C| = 11
|D| = 6
|B intersection A| = 5
|A intersection C| = 5
|B intersection C| = 6
|A intersection D| = 3
|B intersection D| = 4
|C intersection D| = 5
|C intersection B intersection A| = 3
|B intersection A intersection D| = 2
|C intersection A intersection D| = 3
|C intersection B intersection D| = 4
|A intersection B intersection C intersection D| = 2

Are all given, then how many like all 4 parties (not dislike)? Can someone point me in the right direction for this? Thank you.
 
I've never done this before so this may be a really stupid comment, but wouldn't it make it just that little easier if:

|A intersection B intersection C intersection D| = 2

Then you can delete this line and take 2 away from all these 4 lines:

|A| = 7
|B| = 10
|C| = 11
|D| = 6

And the universe.
 
Not sure...

(Not really sure where to start with this myself...)
 
You want [tex]A^c\cap B^c\cap C^c \cap D^C[/tex] call this set E

Let U denote the set of all people asked (the universe)

By definition E = (U\A)n(U\B)n(U\C)n(U\D)

can you work with the rules of sets to simplify that?

Or can you think of a better way of doing it? Such as: (AuB)^c = (A^c)n(B^c)?
 

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