Effect of Weight on Acceleration in Aircraft: Simplified Explanation

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The discussion centers on the effect of an aircraft's weight on its acceleration and top speed during flight, particularly in a simplified context. Participants explore the relationship between weight, drag, lift, and power requirements in aircraft performance, with a focus on theoretical implications and practical considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an increase in weight (from 10,000 Kg to 15,000 Kg) would lead to slower acceleration on a flat trajectory, acknowledging the complexity of the situation.
  • Another participant states that according to the formula Force = mass x acceleration, an increase in mass would result in reduced acceleration if power remains constant.
  • A different participant adds that without an engine upgrade, the top speed of an aircraft may not remain the same with increased weight, especially if it affects the aircraft's aerodynamics.
  • One participant argues that extra weight only reduces top speed if it alters the aircraft's aerodynamic profile, suggesting that drag is the primary factor affecting top speed rather than weight itself.
  • Another participant concurs that increased weight necessitates more lift, which in turn produces more drag, reinforcing the idea that weight and drag are interconnected in affecting performance.
  • A participant provides a hypothetical scenario involving a C-130 aircraft, suggesting that it could still reach its top speed with added weight but would require more fuel, highlighting the limits imposed by structural integrity and available power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between weight, drag, and top speed, with no consensus reached on the primary factors affecting acceleration and performance. Some agree that weight influences drag and lift, while others emphasize the distinction between weight and aerodynamic effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, including the influence of aerodynamics and structural limits on aircraft performance, but do not resolve the nuances of these interactions.

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Does the weight of an aircraft effect acceleration on a flat trajectory? Obviously the Earth is round making a truly flat trajectory impossible but I'm trying to simplify this.

Example) Would an aircraft that weighs (Force*Mass) 10,000 Kg accelerate slower with an additional 5,000Kg of weight stored inside? I know the top speed is the same, it's the time to the top speed I'm after.

The obvious answer is a resounding yes but sometimes the obvious answer is incorrect.

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Force = mass x acceleration, power = force x speed, so given the same power, more mass results in reduced acceleration. In addition, it will require more power to fly at the same speed, because more lift is required, and correspondinly, more drag will occur.
 
Nice summation, Jeff. The top speed will not be the same without an engine upgrade (unless it's an airframe issue such as trying to go transsonic in a subsonic bird).
 
Thanks Jeff and Danger!

Danger, I thought drag was only thing that reduced top speed.

Extra weight reduces top speed only if it changes the way the plane sits and creates more drag. If the plane sat the same in the air the extra weight wouldn't reduce top speed. Realistically any extra weight is going to alter the way the plane sits and ultimately mess with the aerodynamics. But in theory it is the extra drag that reduces top speed, not the extra weight. Am I right or is that confused?
 
Diresu said:
Extra weight reduces top speed only if it changes the way the plane sits and creates more drag.
And it does.
If the plane sat the same in the air the extra weight wouldn't reduce top speed. Realistically any extra weight is going to alter the way the plane sits and ultimately mess with the aerodynamics. But in theory it is the extra drag that reduces top speed, not the extra weight. Am I right or is that confused?
You seem to understand it, but are also trying to draw a distinction where none is necessary. More weight means more lift is required, which means more drag is produced.
 
Diresu said:
Danger, I thought drag was only thing that reduced top speed.
I wasn't very clear about what I meant by the airframe issue. I was envisioning a situation wherein the aeroplane has more than enough power already to carry the load in question up to the rated speed. For instance, say you toss a couple of sandbags into a C-130. It will still reach its top speed easily, but will require slightly more fuel to do it. There are definitely restrictions upon how fast a particular airframe can go before the stresses overcome the structural integrity. The most prominent of those is the case of a plane having enough power to go supersonic, but isn't the right shape to do so.
In any event, if the added weight is in high enough proportion to the available power, then top speed won't be attainable.
 

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