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Oct3-07, 11:28 PM   #1
 

Average speed & average velocity Problem


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Brandon is climbing a mountain. He starts from an elevation of H1=511m above sea level. In 6.18 hours he climbs to an elevation of H2=2746m above sea level. The length of his path is L1=16000m.

A)What is the average angle of ascent the path makes with the horizontal?Theta=
B)What is his average speed along the path in meters/second? average speed=
C)What is his average vertical velocity? Vup=
D)After he eats he hikes back down to their starting point in T2=4.24 hours
What is his average vertical velocity? Vdown=

2. Relevant equations
avg speed=total distance/total time
avg velocity=v=Delta x/delta t
tan theta=opposite/adjacent


3. The attempt at a solution

A)tan theta=opposite/adjacent
Im so confused as to what equations to use.

B)avg speed= total distance/total time

16000M/22680S=0.705m/s


C)avg velocity=v=Delta x/delta t

D)Confused on D as well

Please give some suggestions or the correct equations will be great.thanx Dave
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Oct4-07, 12:22 AM   #2
 
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You are on the right track. If you haven't done it already, one thing that helps is to draw a picture.

For a, you have the correct equation. Hint: what does L1 represent in a simple idealized geometric shape?

For c & d: be careful. The problem says average vertical velocity.

Also, looks like you double posted by mistake.
Oct4-07, 10:08 AM   #3
 
Hotvette thanx alot for the help just got a few more questions.

If your talking in terms of a triangle L1 would represent my hypotenuse I believe. So would 16000m be my hypotenuse is what your suggesting. But dont I have to choose the equation involving the hypotenuse to find the angle. Like:

sin theta= opp/hyp
or
cos theta= adj/hyp

But my question is what is the equation for vertical velocity?

Thanx Vette
Oct4-07, 10:17 AM   #4
 
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Average speed & average velocity Problem


For the angle yes, use:

sin theta = opp/hyp

average vertical velocity = vertical displacement/time
Oct4-07, 10:29 AM   #5
 
Thank you learn,


But im wondering if my hyp=16000m and im trying to find theta. whats my opp or how do i find my opp.?
Oct4-07, 10:38 AM   #6
 
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Thank you learn,


But im wondering if my hyp=16000m and im trying to find theta. whats my opp or how do i find my opp.?
What distance does he travel vertically? they give you initial height and final height...
Oct4-07, 11:15 AM   #7
 
Thanx Learn,



Ok so if I subtract the H2=2746m- 511m=my distance is 2235m

So to find theta I did this:

sin theta=opp/hyp

sin theta=2235m/16000
theta=7.98 degrees or 8 degrees

Please tell me this is correct
Oct4-07, 11:25 AM   #8
 
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Quote by davidco View Post
Thanx Learn,



Ok so if I subtract the H2=2746m- 511m=my distance is 2235m

So to find theta I did this:

sin theta=opp/hyp

sin theta=2235m/16000
theta=7.98 degrees or 8 degrees

Please tell me this is correct
yup, looks right to me. But I get 8.03 degrees.
Oct4-07, 11:40 AM   #9
 
Thanx,

For my average speed =total distance/total time,do I use the 16000m for total distance/6.18hrs or do i convert hrs to seconds. Since my answer has to be in m/s?
Oct4-07, 11:45 AM   #10
 
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Yeah, I think converting to s is best. otherwise your answer will be in m/hr... best to use m/s.
Oct4-07, 12:42 PM   #11
 
Question so if vertical speed= deltaV/T,would my deltaV= .705m/s?I got .705m/s from my average velocity equation which was 16000m/22680s=.705m/s for avgV. Is average vertical velocity and vertical velocity the same equation?
Oct4-07, 01:34 PM   #12
 
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vertical velocity is vertical displacement which you know is 2235m divided by time.
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