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| Oct5-07, 03:21 PM | #1 |
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Reprocessing of Spent Nuclear Fuel
I hear a lot of talk about the law from teh 70's passed by Congress that forbade the reprocessing of commercial SNF. In my Radioactive Waste Management class today, the professor (who is a CHP/PE who specializes in waste management) said it was actually Carter, not Congress (which means, I assume, it was an Excutive Order), but Reagan lifted the ban later on. There are, of course treaties such as the Non-Proliferation Treaty and perhaps others that aim to curtial the plutonium accessible for possible terrorism, etc.) He was pretty sure that reprocessing was allowable even by treaty as long as the site allowed independent inspection by the IAEA.
My question is whether this is still a law that is active, if so, what is the name of this law/act, and the specifics of the law (links are helpful here). I ask because for another class, we are doing research into the molten salt reactors. For my group, we are considering the online reprocessing possibility, including (but not limited to) the legal aspects of online reprocessing, so i need to look up this info. I can't seem to find any evidence for such a law on web searches, but since it has been mentioned numerous times, I need to find out the facts. |
| Oct5-07, 07:56 PM | #2 |
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There are references to Jimmy Carter's (April) 1977 executive order in which he apparently suspended reprocessing of SNF, but after some research, I cannot find such an EO. There was only one in April of 1977 - EO 11982 - Committee on Selection of the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
Perhaps Carter announced in April the intent to suspend reprocessing of spent nuclear fuel (SNF). I believe the suspension of reprocessing was in the Department of Energy Organization Act, PL 95-91, signed 8/4/77, which may be confused with Reorganization Act of 1977, PL 95-17, signed 4/6/77, the latter being reorganization of the Executive Office of the President. http://www.stanfordreview.org/Archiv...pinions3.shtml Nuclear Industry Supports Reprocessing Research But Foresees Long Road to Implementation The Separations Technology and Transmutation Systems (STATS) Report: Implications for Nuclear Power Growth and Energy Sufficiency http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA396.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...gs/rossin.html |
| Oct6-07, 04:22 AM | #3 |
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Carter's policy was a failure in several respects. Carter wanted the US to "show the example" by not using spend fuel reprocessing, with the hope that other nations would follow that example and not reprocess. But that clearly didn't work out as the French and the British have set up a reprocessing plant (Sellafield and La Hague). As such, the idea that if the US doesn't devellop fuel reprocessing, the technology will not be industrially available, failed.
But the second error in Carter's policy was that reprocessing of spend fuel in LWR is by itself not much of a proliferation issue, because the plutonium one gets out of it isn't really weapon-grade quality if the burnup is high. Now, there are discussions of whether it is possible or not to build a badly working weapen anyhow with this plutonium, but as most of this is classified information I guess it is hard to know. It is a bit funny that a nation who had a huge stockpile of weapongrade plutonium for military purposes was being affraid that non-military grade plutonium might somehow be stolen... In the mean time, the PUREX process is not really a big secret, and everyone who really wants to build a reprocessing plant can do so with enough $$$. The extracted plutonium from PWR spend fuel is probably not good enough to make a good working nuclear weapon, but at least if you extract it, you can control it ; if you leave the spend fuel "as is", anybody can come and mine the plutonium. So I find it a huge pity that advances in the fuel cycle are being blocked with silly considerations of non-proliferation, based upon the erroneous idea that somehow it is easier for someone to make a nuclear weapon by stealing bad quality plutonium from a country that has reprocessing capabilities and try to make a working weapon out of that (which is way more difficult), than to make weapon-grade plutonium oneself using a good old graphite/natural uranium reactor and some tri-butyl phosphate. Now maybe I have some misconceptions on the issue, in which case I would like to be enlightened. |
| Oct6-07, 06:13 AM | #4 |
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Reprocessing of Spent Nuclear FuelThere are ways to optimize the conversion of U to Pu (239) with low levels of Pu-241 and heavier nuclides, but that's something not to be shared. Controls on SNM are fairly strict, so proliferation from the US is not the problem. As one indicated, Carter wanted to set an example for other countries to follow, but it was rather misguided, and certainly France, Britain, Russia and Japan have reprocessing capability. India and Pakistan (A. Q. Khan) also have that capability. |
| Oct6-07, 06:31 AM | #5 |
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1) have radioprotection (or suicide fools who don't mind) 2) make weapon grade plutonium themselves using "standard" techniques, not having to rely on stolen spend fuel. That's how the first weapons were made anyhow. |
| Oct6-07, 07:30 AM | #6 |
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A weapons designer wishes to minimize mass, which is not an important consideration for some people. |
| Oct6-07, 11:11 AM | #7 |
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If you master all this technology, then surely you can master a graphite/natural uranium reactor. Point is, I find it a silly argument in several Western countries to refrain from having fuel reprocessing in the nuclear power sector simply because of proliferation issues. People (terrorists, a gouvernment, country...) who have decided to make a nuclear weapon will not make use of the fuel cycle in another country to do so. I don't think the North-Coreans tried to steal plutonium from La Hague to make their bombs. India and Pakistan didn't base their (initially forbidden) nuclear weapon program on stolen plutonium. The main pathways to a nuclear weapon are not the fuel cycle of another country. |
| Oct6-07, 11:50 AM | #8 |
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If one wants a clandestine operation one would probably want an LWR rather than graphite reactor, which have their own issues.
Carter was simply trying to set an example, which was absurd and ill-conceived. Those who want a nuclear weapons program will ignore any such example. |
| Oct6-07, 02:56 PM | #9 |
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WRONG!!!! Reagan couldn't unilaterally lift the ban because it was NOT an Executive Order of Carter. [ For Pete's sake, why did your Professor completely fabricate the claim that Reagan lifted the ban? ] It was a LAW passed by Congress, it was called the "Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act of 1978". It was signed by Carter, but is a Act of Congress, i.e. a LAW and can NOT be repealed by order of the President; and remains in effect. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=30475 Dr. Gregory Greenman Physicist |
| Oct6-07, 03:36 PM | #10 |
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The issue with high burnup fuel is that with higher burnups you get more of the even numbered Plutonium isotopes; Pu-240 and Pu-242. These isotopes spontaneously fission. The spontaneous fission means that you will have a higher neutron background, and that means the weapon assembly has to be faster; otherwise the weapon will fizzle. Los Alamos had originally intended to use gun-assembly for the Plutonium bomb, just as they were planning with the Little Boy uranium bomb. However, when they got macroscopic quantities of Plutonium; they discovered that it was infeasible to assemble a Plutonium device with a gun method. The problem of using Plutonium was solved by using an implosion method originally suggested by Seth Neddermeyer, and developed and improved by George Kistiakowsky. The implosion method is more complicated than gun assembly. Even then, a high neutron background also complicates assembly method; even when implosion is used. http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/design.htm "Because of the short time interval between spontaneous neutron emissions (and, therefore, the large number of background neutrons) found in plutonium because of the decay by spontaneous fission of the isotope Pu-240, Manhattan Project scientists devised the implosion method of assembly in which high explosives are arranged to form an imploding shock wave which compresses the fissile material to supercriticality." These high A Plutonium isotopes are alpha-emitters; so it is TRIVIAL to shield the direct decay products. However, with spontaneous fission; you get gammas from the fission reaction, and the fission products. Dr. Gregory Greenman Physicist |
| Oct8-07, 03:40 AM | #11 |
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From the Carter link by Morbius:
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| Oct8-07, 06:25 AM | #12 |
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Carter was naive. He should have discussed it with the British and French before making a unilateral decision. Hopefully someone would have asked for his rationale.
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| Oct8-07, 09:00 AM | #13 |
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Actually Carter DID discuss this issue with the British and the French. Early in his Administration, Carter called for an international study of the nuclear fuel cycle by the USA, Great Britain, France, and the Soviet Union. It was called INFCE - the International Nuclear Fuel Cycle Evaluation program; and ran from 1977 to 1980. From the outset of INFCE it was clear that Great Britain, France, and the Soviet Union were going to to keep reprocessing nuclear fuel according to the USA's representative; former Professor of Nuclear Engineering, Dr. Albert Carnesale [ who recently retired as Chancellor of UCLA ] as he explained when he gave a seminar at MIT when I was a graduate student there. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act of 1978 was Carter's response - an attempt to FORCE Great Britain, France and the Soviet Union into giving up reprocessing. How the USA doing something unilaterally forces the hand of other countries; I don't understand. But that was Carter's "logic" [ if you can call it that ]. One of the "take-away" points I remember coming away from Dr. Carnesale's seminar was that Carter had his mind made up; and it didn't matter what he [ Dr. Carnesale ] or any of the other members of the INFCE partnership said; Carter wanted a world free of nuclear fuel reprocessing. Yes - Carter was GROSSLY NAIVE, and saddled the USA was with the terrible policy of a "once through" fuel cycle for our commercial fleet of nuclear power plants. Dr. Gregory Greenman Physicist |
| Oct8-07, 10:36 AM | #14 |
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| Oct8-07, 11:10 AM | #15 |
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I have not found a link to the text of the NNPA. However, it DOES BAN all reprocessing in the Unitied States. The CRS paper you refer to above only deals with the foreign policy part of the NNPA; NOT the domestic part. The Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act of 1978 modified certain sections of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954; and THAT's where you will find the explicit ban on fuel reprocessing. In the USA, commercial reprocessing was about to go forward in the early '70s. However, a federal Court decision blocked the licensing of commercial reprocessing because the newly [ 1970 ] enacted Environmental Protection Act requires an environmental impact statement in order for the NRC to issue a license to a commercial reprocessing operation. So the Nuclear Regulatory Commission drafted the GESMO - the Generic Environmental Statement on Mixed Oxide [ mixed oxide is the reprocessed fuel that is the product of reprocessing and which is recycled back to the reactors. ]. With the GESMO in hand, the NRC was all set to license reprocessing facilities - then Congress out-right BANNED reprocessing in 1978 with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Policy Act of 1978. http://www.wise-paris.org/index.html...rame/band.html In the 1970s the Atomic Energy Commission, a forerunner of DOE, produced desk studies on plutonium fuel use, the most prominent of which was the Generic Environmental Statement on Use of Mixed Oxide Fuel (MOX) in Light Water Reactors (GESMO) issued in 1976. The GESMO project was terminated in 1979 following the national policy decision not to use MOX plutonium fuels. A completed commercial scale reprocessing plant at Barnwell, South Carolina, was mothballed at the same time. The USA had a COMPLETED commercial reprocessing plants at Morris, Il and Barnwell, SC which had to be mothballed because reprocessing was banned. Reprocessing / recycling of nuclear fuel would solve so many problems - it reduces the lifetime of nuclear waste, it provides more cost-effective fuel as opposed to freshly enriched uranium.... The nuclear industry would be reprocessing in a heartbeat if Reagan had lifted the ban. Alas, Reagan DID NOT lift the ban - because the ban was codified in LAW. Dr. Gregory Greenman Physicist |
| Oct8-07, 02:02 PM | #16 |
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Ok, now I'm confused. This site http://www.princeton.edu/~globsec/pu...ev293n5539.pdf says what I had previously stated and quoted, but says the reason reprocessing didn't start up was economic, not political.
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| Oct8-07, 03:37 PM | #17 |
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First, NONE of the special nuclear material in the USA's nuclear weapons came from commercial reactors. The USA had special production reactors at Hanford and Savannah River to make weapons material. The last reactor at Savannah River was shut down in 1988. The USA HAS made new bombs since ceasing the production of special nuclear material. New nuclear weapons usually replace older nuclear weapons; and the old weapon can be dismantled as a source of nuclear material. The more advanced new nuclear weapon usually needs less special nuclear material than the old ones it replaces. So banning commercial reprocessing as a way of preventing new nuclear weapons from being built is totally ineffective. "Reactor grade" Plutonium from commercial reactors is NOT the type of material weapons designers like to use. Additionally, the USA has all the weapons grade Plutonium that it needs for new nuclear weapons. Dr. Gregory Greenman Physicist |
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