I had thought the 6 Aug PDB was only

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The discussion revolves around the declassification of a document, initially believed to be 1.5 pages but later found to be 11.5 pages long, with significant portions redacted. Participants express concerns about transparency and the implications of redactions in the context of political accountability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses shock at the discrepancy in the document's length and questions the availability of the full text if it is declassified.
  • Another participant argues that the document has not been fully declassified, suggesting that the redaction of 9 out of 11 pages is excessive and implies deception by the White House.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of cooperation from the Bush administration regarding further questioning of officials, with a participant questioning the motives behind such conditions.
  • There is a comparison made between the Bush administration's actions and those of the Clinton administration, with a participant suggesting that both administrations have similar issues regarding transparency.
  • Some participants engage in light-hearted banter about the differences in how Clinton and Bush approached testimony, with one suggesting that Clinton was more forthcoming.
  • A later reply prompts speculation about the content of the redacted pages, indicating curiosity about what information might be withheld.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the implications of the document's redactions and the motivations of the Bush administration. There is no consensus on the reasons behind the lack of transparency or the comparison to the Clinton administration.

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Participants rely on assumptions about the nature of declassification and redaction processes, which may not be fully explored or defined in the discussion.

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1 and a half pages but after reading at this site -http://washingtonmonthly.com/ - I was shocked to find that it is actually 11 and a half pages. So, where is the rest of it? If its declassified then show the public. :mad:
 
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When things are declassified, they will often have some parts redacted. However, 9 of 11 pages is ridiculous. The document has not been declassified. At best, it has been excerpted. If the White House is saying it is declassified, they are deceiving people.
 
Again! Thats what I figured and here I thought Bushco was finnally cooperating, foolish me! What are they trying to hide? Why did Bushco not want to be reexamined, I mean why make a condition such as denying the commission further oppertunity to question Rice and other Bush admin officials.
 
amp said:
Again! Thats what I figured and here I thought Bushco was finnally cooperating, foolish me! What are they trying to hide? Why did Bushco not want to be reexamined, I mean why make a condition such as denying the commission further oppertunity to question Rice and other Bush admin officials.

For the same reason that Clinton, Gore, and other 'Clintonco' ( :rolleyes: ) officials are allowed to be itnerviewed behind closed doors as well.
The commision is getting access to everyone they wanted access to.
 
Like really?

Funny but Clinton volunteered to come back and he didn't condition his testimony. Also, he didn't need to have Gore hold his hand.
 
amp said:
Funny but Clinton volunteered to come back and he didn't condition his testimony. Also, he didn't need to have Gore hold his hand.
But yeah ... Clinton was a man. GW Bush needs midday naps and a nanny :biggrin:
 
Enough, children...no more mentions of Clinton as an excuse for the Great Satan Bush, and no making fun of the Great Satan Bush...well, ok, after that one!
 
O-Tay, so what do you really think is in those 9 redacted pages?
 

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