What are the steps for solving problems involving forces and energy?

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The discussion revolves around problems involving forces and energy, specifically focusing on scenarios such as a pool ball being struck and a shopping cart rolling down a hill. Participants are exploring the application of the Work-Energy Theorem and the concepts of kinetic and potential energy.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the Work-Energy Theorem and question the definitions of kinetic energy and work. There are attempts to calculate distances and velocities based on given forces and heights, with some expressing confusion about units and assumptions regarding energy transfer.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations of energy transfer being explored. Some participants have provided calculations and insights into potential energy and its relation to kinetic energy, while others are questioning the assumptions made in the problems.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about friction and energy transfer, as well as the implications of the hill's height on the velocity of the can. There is a lack of consensus on certain calculations, and some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their approaches.

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Sorry...I hope I'm not annoying anyone. I really have tried to figure out how to do these, but I just can't get it. I hate just throwing problems out there, but I don't really have a better way of doing it.

"Karmen is playing pool, and strikes a 0.25 kg ball, making it go 1.5 m/s. If Karmen used the force of the cue on the ball with 20 N, over what distance did it act?"

I think I should use W=Fd at some point, but still, that gives W=20d which still doesn't get anywehere.

"A 30 kg shopping cart is on a 2m hill and rolls down to hit a stump at the very bottom. At impact, a .25 kg can flies and hits a car with an average force of 490N. How deep is the dent?"

I think we are supposed to assume the metal did work in stopping it. I really don't know!
 
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Use Work Energy Theorem
[tex]W = \Delta K[/tex]
 
What is K in that equation?
 
Kinetic energy. More commonly denoted T or KE.

cookiemonster
 
Okay...so if KE=.5mv^2, then...
KE=(.5)(.25)(1.5)^2
KE=0.28125 J, right?
Or is it even in Joules? I'm really confused about the units of measurement.

Anyhoo...
Work=.28125
Work=Fd
20d=.28125
d=0.0140625 m, right?

How in the world do we figure the can's velocity? Really. The fact that the cart rolled down the hill would not mean anything about the cans velocity unless given the hill's angle, right?

If not, how do I find the velocity of something at the end of a hill of x height?
 
Decker said:
How in the world do we figure the can's velocity? Really. The fact that the cart rolled down the hill would not mean anything about the cans velocity unless given the hill's angle, right?

If not, how do I find the velocity of something at the end of a hill of x height?

You use the same basic idea:

Conservation of energy.

Assuming no friction (which I'm guessing is the case for this problem even if it didn't state it specifically), It doesn't matter what angle the cart rolls down the hill. As long as the hill is the same height, you'll end up with the same velocity at the bottom regardless of angle (try it!)

mgh=1/2 mV2
 
mgh=(30)(9.8)(2)
SO the cart has potential energy of 588 kilogram-meters per second squared-meters.
And we are saying that the can receives the full amount, in kinetic energy?

588=.5(.25)v^2
v=68.59 m/s!

Wowzas. Anyhoo. Delta-KE=Work
588=490d
d=1.2 meters!

I really doubt that. Where'd I mess up?
 
Decker said:
And we are saying that the can receives the full amount, in kinetic energy?
No, but both the cart and the can fall the same distance. Figure out the ΔPE of the can--that will be the KE of the can at the bottom of the hill, when it flies out of the cart.
 
Alright, I see...so it's potential energy will simply be .25/30 of the whole cart's, right? That'd be 4.9 units of energy.

So...4.9=490d
d=0.01 m or 1 cm.

Sounds great! Thank you all!
 

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