Easy derivitive giving me some trouble

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function ln(x^(1/2)). Participants explore different methods for deriving the expression, including the chain rule and properties of logarithms. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and clarification of derivative rules.

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  • One participant expresses confusion over the derivative of ln(x^(1/2)), initially arriving at an incorrect result and seeking help to identify the mistake.
  • Another participant suggests using the property of logarithms to simplify ln(x^(1/2)) to (1/2)ln(x) before differentiating, leading to the correct derivative of (1/2)(1/x) = 1/(2x).
  • A third participant acknowledges their oversight in the differentiation process after receiving clarification.
  • A fourth participant reiterates the chain rule application, confirming the correct derivative as 1/(2x) through detailed steps, including the derivatives of the inner and outer functions.

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Participants generally agree on the correct derivative being 1/(2x), but there is no explicit consensus on the initial confusion experienced by the first participant. The discussion reflects a mix of approaches to arrive at the same result.

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Some participants reference the properties of logarithms and the chain rule, but there is no detailed exploration of potential limitations or assumptions in their reasoning.

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Students studying calculus, particularly those seeking clarification on differentiation techniques involving logarithmic functions and the chain rule.

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Ok, this one is giving me a headache. I'm missing something stupid here and I don't know where, probably because I've been studying since 4:30 am EST :smile:

find d/dx (ln x^(1/2) I know the answer is 1/2x as it says in the back of the book, I've also confirmed that the answer is correct with a graphing calculator

I use the chain rule, f'(g(x))(g'(x)) if f(x)=ln x and g(x)=x^(1/2) then I have [1/x^(1/2)][1/(2x(x^(1/2))]

Now it looks to me like the end of this problem would be 1/2x^2 Since this is not the correct derivative, something is wrong somewhere. I'm sure it's a silly algebraic mistake where x^(1/2) should be in the numerator at some point to allow it to cancel out. thanks for any help.

Also, if these forums have some kind of standard that problems and work should be submitted in, please point me to it. I'd hate to think I'm making things more difficult with the way I'm formatting my problems.
 
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ln x^1/2

because of the rules of ln, you can 'pull' the 1/2 down and out in front

1/2 ln x

and as you know, the deriv. of ln x, is 1/x

1/2 1/x

result

1/2x

;)
 
DOH! I knew I was forgetting something simple, just trying to crank through these exercises to fast I guess, thanks.
 
kdinser said:
I use the chain rule, f'(g(x))(g'(x)) if f(x)=ln x and g(x)=x^(1/2) then I have [1/x^(1/2)][1/(2x(x^(1/2))]
f'(g(x)) = 1/x^(1/2) = x^(-1/2)
g'(x) = (1/2)x^(-1/2)

Now the derivative becomes:
x^(-1/2)(1/2)x^(-1/2) = 1/2 x^(-1) = 1/(2x)
 
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