Is 0 is an even and positive number?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the classification of the number 0, specifically whether it is considered an even number and if it can be classified as positive. Participants explore definitions and conventions in mathematics regarding these classifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that 0 is an even number because it can be expressed as 2*n for some integer n.
  • Others argue that 0 is not a positive number, as positive numbers are defined as greater than zero.
  • One participant claims that 0 can be considered both positive and negative, suggesting it belongs to both sets of natural numbers.
  • Several participants emphasize that definitions of positive numbers typically exclude zero.
  • There is a discussion about the context-dependent nature of whether 0 is considered positive or negative, with some suggesting that conventions vary.
  • One participant raises a question about the influence of the excluded middle rule on the classification of 0.
  • Another participant suggests that clarity in language, such as using terms like "strictly positive," can help avoid confusion.
  • There is a request for a formal distinction between "strictly positive" and "positive," along with a clarification of a typographical error in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether 0 is positive; multiple competing views remain regarding its classification as positive, negative, both, or neither.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of definitions and conventions in mathematics, particularly regarding the classification of 0. The context in which 0 is considered may influence its classification.

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A friend of mine told me that (by his teacher) 0 is an even and positive number, how can it be?
 
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0 is definitely an even number, since it may be written as 2*n, where n is some integer.
I think it's more usual to say that 0 is a non-negative number, but I'm not sure..
 
0 is definitely not a positive number. Positive means greater than zero, and zero is certainly not greater than itself.
 
for as far as I know, 0 is both positive and negative.

I suppose I will hear no argument if I say that 0 is in both N+ and N-, so that pretty much solves it, no?
 
All the definitions of positive numbers that I've ever seen exclude zero. So zero is not a positive number. However it is true that it is an even number.
 
Both or Neither

Depending on the situation, zero may be considered to be positive, negative, both, or neither.
In some computers, negative and positive zero may be different, but in normal mathematics, whether zero is considered to be positive depends somewhat on context.
 
By standard logic there is the excluded middle rule.

Is there any influence based on this rule and the definition of 0 (positive, negative, both, or neither)?
 
It is a matter of convention. To avoid confusion one should say things like strictly positve and so on. It is no different from saying greater rthan and not specifiying if we mean strictly or posisibly equal. It shuold be no great hardship to make oneself clear.
 
Is there any formal and rigorous way to show the difference between 'strictly positive' and 'positive'?

What is 'posisibly equal'?
 
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"What is 'posisibly equal'?"

A typo. It should read possibly.
 
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NateTG said:
Depending on the situation, zero may be considered to be positive, negative, both, or neither.
In some computers, negative and positive zero may be different, but in normal mathematics, whether zero is considered to be positive depends somewhat on context.


I wouldn't consider computer practice to say anything at all about mathematics!
 

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