How Does a Boy Affect the Angular Velocity of a Merry-Go-Round When He Jumps On?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of a boy jumping onto a merry-go-round on its angular velocity. The problem involves concepts from rotational dynamics, specifically the conservation of angular momentum and the calculation of moment of inertia for a system comprising a point mass and a solid disk.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between linear momentum and angular momentum, with one suggesting to set the boy's linear momentum equal to the angular momentum of the system. Questions arise regarding the correct calculation of the moment of inertia for the combined system of the boy and the merry-go-round.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the approach to calculating the moment of inertia, emphasizing the need to consider both the boy's and the merry-go-round's contributions. Multiple interpretations of the moment of inertia calculation are being explored, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of formulas for moment of inertia and the conservation of angular momentum. Participants are questioning assumptions about the system's setup and the definitions used in their calculations.

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A boy of mass m = 50 kg running with speed v = 4 m/s jumps onto the outer edge of a merry-go-round of mass M = 150 kg and radius R = 2 m, as shown in the picture above. The merry-go-round is initially at rest, and can rotate about a frictionless pivot at its center. You may assume that the inital velocity of the boy is tangent to the edge of the merry-go round.

Treat the boy as a point particle and the merry-go-round as a uniform solid disk. What is the angular velocity of the merry-go-round after the boy has jumped onto it?

I don't know if I can do this, but I set the linear momentum of the boy equal to the angular momentum of the merry-go-round with the boy.
Basically, mv = Iw
For my moment of inertia, I used the sum of both masses and plugged my given information into ((M+m)R^2)/2. This was how I calculated moment of inertia. Then I plugged the boy's mass and his initial speed divided by my moment of inertia and tried to get omega (w). I got 0.5 exactly, but it's not correct. Any help would be appreciated.
 

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linear momentum and angular momentum are not the same thing.

What you want to do is set the boys rotational inertia to the rotational intertia of the entire system.

you should get something like

mvr = Iw

I is the I of the system, I am sure you can figure that out..
 
Is my method of calculating the I of the system correct? I took the sum of the boy and the merry-go-round, multiplied by the square of the radius and all that divided by 2.This should give me the the I of the ystem right?
 
masamune said:
Is my method of calculating the I of the system correct? I took the sum of the boy and the merry-go-round, multiplied by the square of the radius and all that divided by 2.This should give me the the I of the ystem right?


you need to add the I of the boy and the I of the disk

I for a uniform disk rotating about the center of mass is [tex]\frac{1}{2}MR^2[/tex]

I for a point mass is [tex]MR^2[/tex]

add them together you get [tex](\frac{1}{2}M_{merry-go-round} + M_{boy})R^2[/tex]
 

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