Proving 0 < x < 1 -> x^2 < 1: A Discrete Math Textbook

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proof of the implication 0 < x < 1 -> x^2 < 1 and its contrapositive x^2 >= 1 -> x <= 0 or x >= 1 as presented in a Discrete Math textbook. Participants explore the reasoning behind the proof, particularly the interpretation of the statement regarding x <= 0.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the statement "If x <= 0, we have the desired result," questioning how this conclusion can be drawn given the assumption of x^2 >= 1.
  • Another participant notes that the relationship 0 < |x| < 1 is equivalent to 0 < x^2 < 1, suggesting a different perspective on the implications of x.
  • A third participant explains that the proof is conducted by cases, indicating that if x <= 0, the conclusion is immediately satisfied without further proof.
  • One participant proposes an alternative method to prove the converse by letting x = 1 + h and showing that h < 0.
  • Another participant mentions a standard technique in proofs involving disjunctions, emphasizing that proving "If A is NOT true, then B is true" suffices to establish "A is true or B is true."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit some agreement on the validity of proof techniques but express differing interpretations regarding the specific reasoning in the textbook's proof. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of the statement about x <= 0.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for clarity in the assumptions made during the proof, particularly concerning the implications of the hypothesis and conclusion in the context of the contrapositive.

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A Discrete Math textbook first proved that the statement:

0 < x < 1 -> x^2 < 1

is true (I have no problem following the proof).

It then went to prove the contrapositive:

x^2 >= 1 -> x <= 0 or x >= 1

Here's the proof:

Assume x^2 >= 1. (no problem here)
If x <= 0, we have the desired result, so assume x > 0. (what?!?)

The last part I wrote bedazzled me. What does the book mean when it says: "If x <= 0, we have the desired result"? For an implication to be true, the hypothesis and conclusion must be true. We already assumed that the hypothesis is true. Now for the conclusion to be either the left side of the OR statement is true or the right side is true. How can the book conclude that x <= 0 is true?

thanks a lot
 
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Firstly, [tex]0<|x|<1 \Longleftrightarrow 0<x^2<1[/tex]

Secondly, [tex]x^2\geq1 \Longleftrightarrow |x|\geq1[/tex]
 
The last part I wrote bedazzled me. What does the book mean when it says: "If x <= 0, we have the desired result"?

Well, you're trying to prove that x <= 0 or x >= 1. If it so happens that x <= 0, then you don't have to do any work to prove that x <= 0 or x >= 1.


The book is doing a proof by cases: x <= 0 or x > 0.
 
Another way to prove the converse is to let x = 1 + h, and then show that h < 0. This is pretty straightforward. Try it yourself.
 
That's a fairly standard technique so you might want to make certain you understand:

If we want to prove "A is true or B is true", it is sufficient to prove that "If A is NOT true, then B is true".
 

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