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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Two spaceships,A and B move toward each other on a head-on collision course,According to an observer at rest,both spaceships have a velocity of 0.6c along the x-axis.At the time of observation(t=0),spaceship A has the same x value (x=0) as the observer,and spaceship B is at a distance of 100 km away from him.

At what time will the collision occur for the observer at rest and for an observer on spaceship A?

2. Relevant equations
my thought ok dont laugh.... T=(2L/c)/((1-v/c)/(1+v/c))^(1/2) for the spaceship A
and T=(2L/c)/(1-v^2/c^2)^(!/2) for the observer at rest and L= 50 km when the collision happen thanks in advance
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well thanks no one can solve it what can i say this question is meant for the professionals lol
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Use the formula for relative velocities (within Special Relativity)

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I don't quite understand how you arrived at those answers. Rather than just give your final conclusion, explain your thinking step by step.
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well thanks no one can solve it what can i say this question is meant for the professionals lol
You're the one who has to solve it, not me! (I can solve it just fine. )
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relative velocities what do you mean by that theres F ,T ,Energies ,... but V i cant find it i have this book concepts of modern physics 6 th edition i cant find it thanks in advance please help!!!!
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ok never mind my answer is wrong or right if yes i will explain it dont worry my doctor will ask me the same thing uve asked and if yes i will reply how i thought about it if no let me think again about the question...
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Here's a hint: Distance = speed * time. From the observer at rest's point of view, what the distance that each ship must travel and what's the speed of each ship? From ship A's point of view, how far away is ship B and how fast is it coming at him? (That's the relative speed.)
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From the observer at rest's point of view, what the distance that each ship must travel and what's the speed of each ship?
50 km,0.6c
From ship A's point of view, how far away is ship B and how fast is it coming at him?
100km,0.6c
ok but whats the formula i have to use it d=vt no thers another one what it is thanks in advance
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Quote Quote by tarekkkkk View Post
From the observer at rest's point of view, what the distance that each ship must travel and what's the speed of each ship?
50 km,0.6c
That's correct. That's all you need to solve for the time.
From ship A's point of view, how far away is ship B and how fast is it coming at him?
100km,0.6c
Incorrect: For the distance, consider length contraction; for the speed, consider the relativistic addition of velocity to find the relative speed.
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Thank youuuuuu ok L=L0(1-v^2/c^2)^(1/2) for lenght contration ok for the velocity i will try my best to find out how it will change any other hint it will be great (for the speed) thank youuuuuuuuu
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i have to use relativistic momentum ?
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Read this: Einstein Velocity Addition
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0.6c +0.6c but >c what can i do ?
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i have to use this formula vx=(0.6+0.6)/(1+0.6^2) ?
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Mar25-08, 02:43 PM
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ok vx=0 !!!!{*_*}!!!!!!
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i have to use this formula vx=(0.6+0.6)/(1+0.6^2) ?
That's the one.
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Mar25-08, 02:53 PM
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yoooooooooopiiiiiiii thank you then the answer for observer at rest T=50km/0.6c
and for the observer at A is T= (l=50km((1-0.6^2)^1/2))/0=infinty if yes im going to give a big thanksssssss


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