What are the properties of an average (mean)?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the arithmetic mean, specifically its mathematical characteristics such as commutativity, associativity, distribution over addition, and the existence of an identity element. Participants explore these properties in the context of a multiple-choice question regarding which statements about the arithmetic mean are always true.

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  • One participant questions the properties of the arithmetic mean, asking if it is commutative or associative.
  • Another participant references properties of expected values in random variables, suggesting a connection to the discussion on averages.
  • A participant presents a multiple-choice question regarding the properties of averaging, listing five statements about the arithmetic mean.
  • One participant argues that the arithmetic mean is not associative, providing a mathematical example to support this claim.
  • The same participant asserts that the arithmetic mean is commutative and provides a justification based on the commutativity of addition.
  • This participant also claims that the arithmetic mean does not distribute over addition and provides examples to illustrate this point.
  • They further argue that addition does not distribute over averaging and present a mathematical explanation for this assertion.
  • The participant concludes that the arithmetic mean does not have an identity element, supporting their argument with a mathematical derivation.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the terminology used in the original question, specifically questioning the characterization of the arithmetic mean as a binary operation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the properties of the arithmetic mean, as participants present conflicting views on its associativity, distribution properties, and identity element. The discussion remains unresolved with differing interpretations of these properties.

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Participants rely on specific mathematical definitions and properties, which may not be universally accepted or may depend on the context in which the arithmetic mean is applied. Some assumptions about the nature of the arithmetic mean and its operations are not explicitly stated.

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What are the properties of an average (mean) of something? Like... is it communative, associative with other averages? I duffed up this one on a test. :frown:
 
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Here is the original question...


Of the following five statements, I to V, about the binary operation of averaging (arithmetic mean), those which are always true are...

I. Averaging is associative
II. Averaging is commutative
III. Averaging distributes over addition
IV. Addition distributes over Averaging
V. Averaging has an identity


multiple choice...

A) II Only B) I + II only C) II and III Only D) II and IV only E) II and V only


which one grime?
 
I'll jump in here with my first posting.

I The arithmetic mean is not associative:
Let m be the function that yields the arithmetic mean of its two parameters.
m(m(a, b), c) = m((a+b)/2, c) = (a+b)/4 + c/2
m(a, m(b, c)) = m(a, (b+c)/2) = a/2 + (b+c)/4.

II The arithmetic mean is commutative since addition is commutative:
m(a, b) = (a+b)/2 = (b+a)/2 = m(b, a).

III The arithmetic mean does not distribute over addition:
m(a, b+c) = (a+b+c)/2.
m(a, b) + m(a, c) = (a+b)/2 + (a+c)/2 = (2a+b+c)/2.

IV Addition does not distribute over averaging:
a + m(b, c) = a + (b+c)/2.
m(a+b, a+c) = (a+b+a+c)/2 = (2a+b+c)/2.

V The arithmetic mean does not have an identity:
m(a, i) = a
(a+i)/2 = a
a+i = 2a
i = a

Your only choice for a correct answer is A.

-Ray.
 
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Woah... neato! Stuff I have no clue about...
 
"binary operation of averaging (arithmetic mean),"

who the hell wrote that? the arithmetic mean is not a binary operation. They could at least have included the words "of two numbers" explicitly so it made sense.
 

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