Temperature of ice-water mixture

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the temperature of an ice-water mixture and the heat transfer involved in melting ice and warming water. The original poster presents a scenario with a beaker containing ice and water at an initial temperature of 0 degrees Celsius, questioning the temperature after heating until half the ice is melted.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the properties of ice-water mixtures, questioning the implications of having both ice and water present at 0 degrees Celsius. Some participants suggest that the temperature remains at 0 degrees due to the presence of un-melted ice, while others seek clarification on the energy transfer involved in the melting process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been provided regarding the setup of energy equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the final temperature of the mixture.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There is also a related question about a different scenario involving an ice cube and water, which introduces additional complexity to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A beaker containing 50g of ice and 250g of liquid water is initially at 0celsius. It is then heated on a hot plate until half of the ice is melted. What is the temperature of the ice-water mixture at that point?
A. 2.0 C
B. 0.5 C
C. 1.0 C
D. 1.5 C
E. 0.0 C

Homework Equations


Q=mL
cmdT=Q


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm still not sure about how to set up the equations at this starting point.
 
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Hi jiceo1,

What is true about ice-water mixtures that can help you know their temperature?
 
I assume that since half of the ice is still there in the water, then the energy gained from the hot plate has all gone to melting half of the ice's mass. So at this point, the temperature would still be 0 degrees, am I wrong?
 
I think that sounds right.
 
I have another related question, so I'm going to post it here instead of creating a new topic:

An ice cube has a mass of 720 g and a temperature of -10° C. Assume that the specific heat of ice is c_ice = 2220 J/kg•°C, the latent heat of fusion of ice is L_F = 333 KJ/kg and the specific heat of liquid water is c_water = 4190 J/kg•°C.
a. The ice cube melts and comes to a final temperature of 15° C. How much heat was added to the ice cube?
Total energy= mL_F + cmdT
(0.720kg)(333kJ/kg) + (4.190kJ/kgC)(0.720kg)(15-(-10))
239.76 +75.42 = 315.18 kJ energy, is this correct?

b. The ice cube is added to 2.5 kg of water at 25° C. What is the final temperature of the equilibrium mixture?

c. If 720 g of ice water is added instead to the 2.5 kg of water at 25° C, what is the final equilibrium temperature of the mixture?
 
The specific heat of ice and water are not the same, so ice and water will need separate terms in the equation.

For part a there are three processes that occur: first the ice warms up to the freezing point, then it melts, then the water warms up to the final termperature.
 
oh, ok:
so for part A it would be:
(2220 J//kgC)(0.720kg)(0-(-10)) + (0.720)(333000 J/kg) + (4190 J/kgC)(0.720kg)(15-(-10)) = 331000 J correct?
 
Not quite, I don't think; what is the initial and final temperature of the water as it warms?
 
ooh, I see it... as the water warms up, it warms from 0 degrees to 15 degrees. -_- my bad...
so my final answer is: 300,996 J
 
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for part B, since energy gained = energy lost.
Energy gained = the ice warming up to 0, then melting, then the water at 0 degrees warming up to a final temperature.
Energy lost = water cooling down to a final unknown temperature.
I got 1.5 degrees for the final temperature. Correct?
 
  • #11
If you don't mind, please post the numbers that you use in your calculation (the way you did in post #7). It makes it much easier to see what you did.

Your statements about energy gained and energy lost sound good. But I'm not sure about the 1.5 degrees.
 
  • #12
[2220 J/kgC * 0.720kg * 0-(-10)] + [0.720kg * 333000 J/kg * 4190J/kgC * 0.720kg * (T-0)] = 4190 J/kgC * 2.5kg * (25-T)
T=1.5 degrees
 
  • #13
You have a small typo right after the 333000; it should be a plus sign, but you probably entered into your calculator correctly.

So when I check the number by calculating the left side with T=1.5, I get:

[2220 J/kgC * 0.720kg * 0-(-10)] + [0.720kg * 333000 J/kg + 4190J/kgC * 0.720kg * (T-0)]

=15984+239760 + 4525.2 = 260269

and the right side is

4190 J/kgC * 2.5kg * (25-T) = 4190 * 2.5 (25-1.5) = 246163

Since the right and left sides don't equal, that's why I thought 1.5 degrees was not correct, and I think you made an algebraic error when solving for T.


Combing the multiplications in your expression on the left side and multiplying out the terms on the right side gives:

15984+239760 +3016.8 T =261875-10475 T

which you can then solve for T. Is that what you are getting?
 

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