# Transmission antenna

by arvik
Tags: antenna, transmission
 P: 6 Hey guys, professor at college just completed teaching amplitude modulation and other stuff.Well while explaining need for modulation he said that height of transmitting antenna should be a multiple of "one fourth the wavelength" and so it is required to modulate the signal to higher carrier frequency. Can somebody explain just briefly how we get the relation between height of antenna and wavelength?I tried searching for it on the net but couldnt find any xplanation in regards to it. thanks.
 Sci Advisor HW Helper P: 1,571 It depends on the type of antenna and you can compensate for breaking the rule somewhat. IIRC the rule applies mostly to horizontal dipole where the ground can work as an passive element to the driven element changing the impedance and radiation pattern. An end feed vertical has the opposite constraint. The end needs to be at the ground or you need to construct a ground plane. A good source for antenna design is the ARRL Antenna Handbook. (ARRL = American Radio Relay League)
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 Quote by arvik Hey guys, professor at college just completed teaching amplitude modulation and other stuff.Well while explaining need for modulation he said that height of transmitting antenna should be a multiple of "one fourth the wavelength" and so it is required to modulate the signal to higher carrier frequency. Can somebody explain just briefly how we get the relation between height of antenna and wavelength?I tried searching for it on the net but couldnt find any xplanation in regards to it. thanks.
I think the prof was talking about the length of the radiating elements, not the height above the ground plane. Both affect the radiation pattern, but the quarter wavelength refers to the resonant length of each half of a dipole antenna, or the single element of a monopole antenna. This wikipedia page is a good intro to antennas, with plenty of helpful links:

And here is a recent PF thread where we talked about antennas a fair bit:

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 Sci Advisor HW Helper P: 1,571 Transmission antenna Here is some height above the ground stuff. Starts on page 5. http://www2.arrl.org/FandES/field/re...al/antplnr.pdf
 Sci Advisor HW Helper P: 8,953 In the tradiational PF thread going off at a tangent mode. The wiki article says that antenna / aerial means a rigid vs stiff wire but mean the same in British English. I always used antenna for a single element and aerial for the entire system, mutliple dipoles, reflectors etc. Is this common usage?
 Sci Advisor HW Helper P: 1,571 Welcome to short attention span theater. Don't know. Personally, I'm inclined to think of aerial as archaic usage, at least in the US. For those times when I need to be more specific than antenna I name the type.
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 Quote by mgb_phys In the tradiational PF thread going off at a tangent mode. The wiki article says that antenna / aerial means a rigid vs stiff wire but mean the same in British English. I always used antenna for a single element and aerial for the entire system, mutliple dipoles, reflectors etc. Is this common usage?
At least among US HAMS (and the EEs that I work with), antenna refers to the whole thing, and we use the term "element" when referring to a piece of the antenna.
 P: 157 Mmmmmmmmmmm... love the concept of getting a 198kHz antenna a quarter wavelength up...
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 Quote by zeitghost Mmmmmmmmmmm... love the concept of getting a 198kHz antenna a quarter wavelength up...
Yep, as you get to lower frequencies, the size of an efficient antenna can get to be pretty challenging!

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