Prove the Equality of Perpendicular Lines in a Parallelogram

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The discussion revolves around proving the equality of lengths of segments DE and BF in a parallelogram ABCD, where DE and BF are perpendicular to a plane π that passes through diagonal AC. Participants explore geometric relationships and congruence between triangles formed by these segments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that since DE and BF are both perpendicular to the same plane π, they must be parallel, leading to equal angles in the triangles formed.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the argument regarding the equality of angles CDE and ABF, expressing skepticism about the proof's completeness.
  • A different participant suggests examining triangles DEM and BFM, indicating that congruence can be established through midpoints and right angles, thus supporting the claim that DE equals BF.
  • Another contribution highlights the similarity of triangles ABF and CDE based on parallel lines and corresponding angles, suggesting a different approach to the proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the initial proof. Some support the idea of congruence through different triangles, while others challenge the reasoning and seek clarification on specific angle relationships.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the positions of points E and F relative to the diagonal AC, as well as the clarity of angle relationships in the proposed proofs.

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Hey everybody..
I got this space geometry question that had me stumped.. Please help me out.. Here goes:

ABCD is a parallelogram. The plane π was drawn passing through the diagonal AC.
If DE was perpendicular to π, BF was perpendicular to π.
Prove that BF = DE

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are E and F on π?
 
yes, I guess they are.. since ED and BF are both perpendicular on π :confused: any help??
 
Well, what have you tried?
 
Hey I think I got it! :eek:
First draw the diagonal BD


DE and BF are both perpendicular to π
so DE and BF are parallel

This means that the angles BDE and FBD are equal.

And since ABCD is a parellogram, then AB and CD are parrallel.
so the angles BDC and DBA are equal

We then conclude that the angles CDE ad ABF are equal
(because we already proved that the bisects make equal angles)

in the triangles DCE and ABF
angle E=F=90 degrees
D = B proven
C = A 180-both angles

so the triangles are congruent

this means: ED/BF = CE/AF = CD/AB

and since ABCD is a parallelogram, then CD = AB

so DE/BF = CD/AB = 1/1

that concludes to DE = BF :cool:

Am I right here guys? :confused:
Sorry for the crappy solution but I know all the theorems in arab so it's hard for me to write in english because I don't knwo the exact terms. :biggrin:
 

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:cool: I guess no newz is good news.. finally I can get this question off my back :rolleyes:
 
I'm not convinced that you've got it right. It's not clear how you show <CDE = <ABF. Sorry to put the question back on your back after all this time.
 
Try to look at the triangles DEM and BFM where M is the midpoint of AC.
You've shown that <BDE = <DBF.
And since M lies on AC, EM and FM are lines in the plane. Hence, <DEM =<BFM = 90.
Finally, DM = BM = 1/2(BD) since the diagonals intersect at their midpoints.
Thus, the triangles DEM and BFM are congruent; so DE = BF.

'Congruent' means identical in shape and size, while the term 'similar' is used for objects that are identical in shape. So, when 2 triangles have the same angles, they are similar, but if they also have an equal side, they become congruent.

Hope this helps.
 
I think this fills in the gap to first show that triangles ABF and CDE are similar.

Since AB || CD, and is each cut by AC, then <BAC = <DCA.
(Assuming that F and E are on AC, then <BAF=<DCE).

As noted by xenogizmo, <E=<F.

So, <ABF=<CDE.

Thus, triangle ABF is similar to triangle CDE.
 

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