Is the Ultimate Reality of Existence Socially Defined?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the "ultimate reality of existence" and whether it is influenced by social themes. Participants explore the relationship between social constructs and the nature of reality, considering philosophical implications and personal perspectives.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the ultimate reality of existence is intertwined with social themes, suggesting that our understanding of reality is shaped by social interactions and teachings.
  • Others argue that while social themes play a role, the ultimate reality also relates to physics and personal introspection, indicating a multifaceted nature of reality.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the possibility of knowing the ultimate reality, likening the inquiry to hypothetical scenarios that may not yield definitive answers.
  • Another participant emphasizes that human reality is inherently social and questions the implications of defining ultimate reality in a social context, suggesting that philosophical ideas are influenced by one's social position.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the relationship between social themes and the ultimate reality of existence.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the definitions of "ultimate reality" and the extent to which it may or may not be socially defined. The discussion reflects varying assumptions about the nature of reality and its sources.

Mohaamad
Do you think that the "ultimate reality of existence" will be related to or will have a social theme?

By "reality" I mean in terms of the ultimate source of causation of the things we see today as reality.
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I apologize for my english if it is difficult to understand.
 
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Originally posted by Mohaamad
Do you think that the "ultimate reality of existence" will be related to a social theme?

By "reality" I mean in terms of the ultimate source of causation of the things we see today as reality.
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I apologize for my english if it is difficult to understand.

Your english is pretty good so far. :0)

I would say the ultimate reality of existence is related to social themes, but then it is also related to physics and personal introspection as well. It's related to social themes because we obviously learn so much about reality socially, but often what we learn is just dead wrong or over simplified. The Earth is not flat and doesn't ride on the back of a giant turtle for example.

What the vast majority of social teachings on how to best understand the ultimate reality agree on is the need for acceptance or surrender on a personal level.
 
Greetings Mohaamad !

Welcome to PF ! :smile:
Originally posted by Mohaamad
Do you think that the "ultimate reality of
existence" will be related to a social theme?
Even if it exists at all, it is extremely unlikely
that we will ever be able to know it. So, I think
this is much like those - "What if I trevelled at
the speed of light... ?" questions. Nevertheless,
if what we inffered from our observation data so far
has any validity for such a hypothetical case, then
the answer seems to more likely be negative, for now.

Live long and prosper.
 
Originally posted by Mohaamad
Do you think that the "ultimate reality of existence" will be related to or will have a social theme?

By "reality" I mean in terms of the ultimate source of causation of the things we see today as reality.
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I apologize for my english if it is difficult to understand.

Our reality as humans is a human, social reality, undoubtly.
But what do you mean with "ultimate reality of existence"?
Wether or not that is socially defined?

I think that we as humans are bound to our social relations, and that also our (philosophical) ideas, reflect on our social reality.
Undoubtly.

It does matter for your philosophical notions, wether or not you have a priviliged position in society or not.
 

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