The inverse of a set of points?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of finding the inverse of a set of points, specifically focusing on the set p={1,2}. Participants explore the meaning and implications of the term "inverse" in various mathematical contexts.

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  • Participants present differing interpretations of what "inverse" could mean in relation to a set of points, with some suggesting it might refer to a set without the original elements, while others question the meaningfulness of the concept itself. There is also a discussion about the distinction between sets and ordered pairs, and how inverses apply in those contexts.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the nature of inverses in mathematical operations and functions, while others express uncertainty about the terminology and its application to sets.

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There is a lack of specific context regarding the mathematical framework or definitions being used, which may contribute to the confusion surrounding the term "inverse." Participants are also navigating the difference between sets and ordered pairs in their reasoning.

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I'm having trouble with this I'm sure it's a stupid terminology thing but for my personal retention, for example:
p={1,2}

what is the inverse of P (or mathematically put: p^-1)

-thanks :biggrin:
 
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I'd guess it's a set without the points, or p={1/1, 1/2} i.e. p={1^-1, 2^-1}.
It's more probable that's it's my second answer cos a set without 1 and 2 in its elements should be defined using the set-operation terms e.g. intersect, union (I forgot the one that means "without the elements")

I MIGHT BE COMPLETELY WRONG! SO WAIT TILL SUM1 WHO KNOWS ANSWER FOR SURE COMES ALONG.

ok?
 
I think it depends...

A set of points (x,y) describes a position, and the inverse of a position does not have much meaning.

The same set of points could, however, describe a displacement vector if the origin is assumed to be the initial location and (x,y) is the final location. The resultant displacement would have a magnitude of SQRT (x^2 + y^2) (that's pythagorean theorem), and this quantity could be inversed.

There's probably other interpretations
 
Without any extra context, the inverse of a set is not a meaningful concept.

Chi Meson said:
A set of points (x,y) describes a position, and the inverse of a position does not have much meaning.

Meson - you're confusing sets with ordered pairs. Even so, ordered pairs are generally not considered to have inverses.

Typically, inverses make sens used when you have:

Binary operations and an identity e.g.:
The multiplicative inverse of [tex]2[/tex] is [tex]\frac{1}{2}[/tex]. So [tex]2 \times \frac{1}{2} = 1[/tex]
or
The additive inverse of [tex]2[/tex] is [tex]-2[/tex]. So [tex]2 + (-2) = 0[/tex]

Some type of relation:
The inverse of [tex]f(x)=2x[/tex] is [tex]f^{-1}(x)=\frac{x}{2}[/tex]. For bijections this is also an inverse in the sense above. I.e. for [tex]f[/tex] a bijection, [tex]f(f^{-1}(x))=x[/tex] is the identity function, but can readily be generalized to relations, or so that the inverse of [tex]f:X \rightarrow Y[/tex], is [tex]f:Y \rightarrow P(X)[/tex] where [tex]P(X)[/tex] is the power set of [tex]X[/tex].

There are probably other notions of inverse that I'm not thinking of. Regarding the notation [tex]P^{-1}[/tex] - I supose it might be used to describe the complement of [tex]P[/tex] but, if this is for a math course or text, look for the first instance of it in the text.
 
ordered pairs do have inverses. The inverse of (1,3) is (3,1). Its just like with a function, to determine the inverse function you have to switch the x and y values.
 

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