How does lorentz law affect a single charge?

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The discussion centers on the Lorentz force law and its relationship to Maxwell's equations, particularly how it affects a single charge. Participants explore theoretical implications, derivations, and the nature of magnetic monopoles versus dipoles.

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  • One participant notes that wires are attracted if currents flow in the same direction and rejected otherwise, questioning how the Lorentz law affects a single charge.
  • Another participant explains that Maxwell's Equations describe the generation of electric and magnetic fields by charge and current densities, while the Lorentz force law describes the force on a moving charge in a magnetic field, suggesting it is a consequence of Maxwell's equations.
  • A different participant asks how the Lorentz law derives from Maxwell's equations and questions the interpretation of the law regarding the absence of magnetic monopoles.
  • One participant mentions that it is theoretically possible to derive the Lorentz force law from Maxwell's equations but notes there are technical challenges involved.
  • Another participant refers to a YouTube video that discusses the relationship between Lorentz law, relativity, and Coulomb's law.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between the Lorentz force law and Maxwell's equations, with some suggesting a derivation is possible while others highlight technical issues. The interpretation of magnetic monopoles and dipoles also remains contested.

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Some participants express limitations in their mathematical knowledge, which may affect their understanding of the concepts discussed. There are unresolved technical problems mentioned regarding the derivation of the Lorentz force law from Maxwell's equations.

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wires attracted if the currents in both direction otherwise there is rejection.

how that law affect a single charge?



why does lorentz law is not one of maxwell equations, seems to be quite important...
it is the law for magnetic forces , like coulomb's law - for electric forces.

I don't have the math knowledge to understand it , sorry...

thanks
 
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My understanding is that Maxwell's Equations describe how electric and magnetic fields are generated by charge and current densities. They are differential field equations which relate the sources of the fields with the fields themselves at points in space.
By integrating the equations, you can derive stuff like Coulomb's Law and ,say,the magnetic field of a current-carrying conductor.

The Lorentz force law describes the force on an electric charge moving in an external magnetic field. So, it is a different kind of thing compared with Maxwell equations. Also, I think the Lorentz law is a consequence of Maxwell's equations and does not describe any new physics .
 
How does lorentz law derives from maxwell equations?

what is the meaning of the law which says that there is no monopole but only dipole.
it seems like a conclusion and not a law.
 
I think it's possible in principle to derive the Lorentz force law from Maxwell's Equations but I've just read there are some technical problems (See http://arxiv.org/abs/physics?papernum=0206022"


The 'law' is the observation that there are no magnetic monopoles (free magnetic point charges).
This is encapsulated in the Maxwell equation:
div B = 0
As there are no magnetic monopoles this means magnetic field lines are always continuous.
 
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you tube !




minute 20 explains lorentz = relativity + Coulomb
 
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