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| Sep8-08, 09:21 AM | #1 |
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Find the values:
Find all values of p and q if p and q are prime numbers, [tex]p^2 + q^2 + 7pq[/tex] is a perfect square.
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| Sep8-08, 09:33 AM | #2 |
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(p, p), (3, 11), (11, 3) all work. I'd suggest trying the equation mod 4 or 36 to see if you can rule out others.
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| Sep8-08, 09:36 AM | #3 |
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please explain the whole solution. It was an Olympiad question and all of my friends couldn't do it.
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| Sep8-08, 10:47 PM | #4 |
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Find the values:
[tex]p^2 + 7pq + q^2[/tex]
For p = q, it reduces to [tex]9p^2 = (3p)^2[/tex]. It therefore is a perfect square. You can put p = 2 and show that only q = 2 gives a feasible solution, which is covered in p = q. Thus, we conclude that p,q are both odd, and hence the value of the expression is odd For other values [tex] p^2 + 7pq + q^2 = (p+q)^2 + 5pq = k^2[/tex] [tex] 5pq = k^2 - (p+q)^2 = (k - p - q)(k + p + q) [/tex] Thus, since p and q are primes, the only possible solutions are [tex] 1.k-p-q = 5, k+p+q = pq [/tex] From the above equations we get k = 5+p+q and hence [tex] 5+2p+2q = pq => 5 + 2q = p(q-2) => p = \frac{2q+5}{q-2} = 2 + \frac{9}{q - 2} [/tex] [tex] => q - 2 = 1, 3, or 9 [/tex] This gives (p,q) = (11,3) or (5,5) or (3,11) The other possibilites are [tex] 2. k-p-q = 5p, k+p+q = q [/tex](no solution) [tex] 3. k+p+q = 5, k-p-q = pq [/tex](no solution) [tex] 4. k+p+q = 5p, k-p-q = q [/tex](gives p = q) Thus, the only possible solutions are (p,p), (3,11) and (11,3) |
| Sep9-08, 02:42 PM | #5 |
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Nice solution praharmitra. I saw the decomposition as well but didn't complete the solution since I didn't analyze the small cases at first. I have to remember that even/odd parity analysis is always a good first step in number theory equations.
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