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Oct6-08, 02:59 PM   #1
 

Spring Problem (Urgent)





Please Help some1??

To be honest I don't what to do........
 
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Saying that you have no idea doesn't count as an attempted solution. Have you read your class notes and/or text?
 
Oct6-08, 03:24 PM   #3
 
my professor doesn't go in details and book is to consusing but still I will give a try:

attempt: First I thought to use

W = delta KE + delta PE

but I was confused b/c i did not see a way to put those spring forces in there

so i was kindly asking for a help
 
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my professor doesn't go in details and book is to consusing but still I will give a try:

attempt: First I thought to use

W = delta KE + delta PE

but I was confused b/c i did not see a way to put those spring forces in there

so i was kindly asking for a help
Thank you for trying, your threads will generally get answered a lot quick if you show an attempted solution.

You're right to approach the problem using conservation of energy. You know that the work done by friction and the 400 N/m spring must be equal to the energy stored in the N/m spring.

Can you go from here?
 
Oct6-08, 03:37 PM   #5
 
is it like this:

F x S = Ef - Ei
 
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is it like this:

F x S = Ef - Ei
We'll take it a step at a time. What is the energy stored in the 200N/m spring before the block is released?
 
Oct6-08, 03:45 PM   #7
 
= .5k(x.x) + .5mv.v + mgh
 
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= .5k(x.x) + .5mv.v + mgh
Could you explain how each of the terms arise, what does each term represent?
 
Oct6-08, 03:52 PM   #9
 
1st is spring force , 2nd is kinetic energy and 3rd is potential enery, which is 0.
 
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1st is spring force , 2nd is kinetic energy and 3rd is potential enery, which is 0.
Good. What about the kinetic energy, is that non-zero before the block is released?
 
Oct6-08, 03:57 PM   #11
 
i think it is zero since Vi is 0
 
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i think it is zero since Vi is 0
Correct. So, the total energy of the system is simply the energy stored by the spring, can you calculate it?

Now, when the block reaches the 400N/m spring is compresses it. So how much energy is stored in this spring? Can you also calculate this value?
 
Oct6-08, 04:05 PM   #13
 
at intial = .5(200N/m)(.1 x .1) = 1N

at Final = .5(4000N/m)(.05 x .05) = .5 N
 
Oct6-08, 04:05 PM   #14
 
do i just add them together?
 
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do i just add them together?
No.

You started off with this much energy:
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at intial = .5(200N/m)(.1 x .1) = 1N
And ended up with this much energy:
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at Final = .5(4000N/m)(.05 x .05) = .5 N
Where did the rest of the energy go?

You also need to be careful with your units, the Newton is not a measure of energy.
 
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