Creating a Logarithmic Equation Using a Table of Numbers

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The discussion revolves around generating a logarithmic equation using a table of numbers, specifically focusing on methods for creating such equations without a calculator. Participants explore various approaches, including regression techniques and series expansions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for a step-by-step explanation of how to use a table of numbers to generate a logarithmic equation.
  • Another participant provides a real dataset and requests guidance on creating a logarithmic formula without a calculator.
  • A different participant suggests using Taylor series for logarithm calculation but questions its relevance to the original request.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the previous suggestion but later indicates understanding and shares a personal comment about a picture they created.
  • Another participant discusses the limitations of the Taylor series for calculating natural logarithms, noting its slow convergence.
  • A participant describes the process of using a calculator's ln regression function to perform logarithmic regression on the provided data, detailing the steps involved.
  • A later reply confirms that they followed the suggested calculator method.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for generating a logarithmic equation, with multiple approaches and some confusion expressed regarding the suggestions made.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the relevance of certain mathematical techniques, and there are varying levels of familiarity with calculator functions among participants.

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Anybody know how to use a table of numbers (in the stat -> edit place) to generate a log equation...?

can you explain this step by step for me?

stat->edit place ex.

L1 L2
2 123213
4 12321312312
5 231123123123123
324 123123123123
2234 12312312321
123424 12312321
(just an example)
 
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Or can you teach me how to make a log formula without a calulator

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Time 1:30 1:35 1:40 1:45 1:50 1:55 2:00 2:05 2:10 2:15 2:20 2:25 2:30 2:45 3:00 3:15 3:30 4:00 4:30 5:00 5:30
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Keifi said:
Or can you teach me how to make a log formula without a calulator
You could use Taylor series for that but I have the impression that is not what you're looking for.
 
funny thing is, i don't have any idea what you just meant... but anyways i got it.. sooooo simple i feel soo dumb :smile: :smile:

but anyways, a random comment :
check out the picture i made, tell me if u like
 

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I meant this:

img24.gif


This calculates the natural logarithm but converges very slowly, so as I guess you want it to be calculated by hand it isn't very convenient. Nice pic, would get you a lot of female attention at Abu Ghraib. Anyway, I seem to have misunderstood your question. Sorry for that.
 
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on your calculator there is lnreg (ln regression) go to:
before you use it, make sure you turn diagnostic on (go to the catalog [second --> 0]) and find the diagnostic on, and select that
than to do your regression:
stat --> calc (second tab) --> number 9 (lnreg)
it should say: LnReg on the screen
than type L1 (second --> 1) --> , (comma) --> L2 (second --> 2) --> , --> Y1 (vars --> y-vars [second tab] --> Function [number 1] --> Y1 [number 1])

this will than regress your data (L1 will by the x values, L2 will be the y values [you can use other lists also, but make sure the first one is x values the second one is y]) and give you an equation. It will than graph the equation in Y1 (you can change it to anyone you want). There are many other types of regression (about 10) that you can use. Check in the manual, it has a list of every single function in the calculator. You will be able to find everything you need in it somewhere.
 
ya that's wat i did (Parth Dave )
 

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