Help with complicated integral, simplifying

In summary, the conversation is about finding a way to integrate the given equation, \int\sqrt{4x^{6}+16x^{2}}, from 1 to 3. The person tried to substitute x^2 with y, but was unsure of how to proceed with the integration. Another person suggests rewriting the integrand as 2x\sqrt{x^4+4} and applying a substitution, which results in \int_{1}^{9}{\sqrt{y^2+4}}. The first person is not familiar with area hyperbolic functions and asks if there are other ways to approach the integration.
  • #1
devanlevin
need to integrate the following equation from 1 to 3

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\sqrt{4x^{6}+16x^{2}}[/tex]

what i tried to do was call x^2, y for example then what i have is (4Y^3+16Y)^0.5
which i don't know how to integrate.
what else can i do, somehow need to play with the equation.
 
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  • #2
If you let y=x^2 you have to replace x^2 by y and 2xdx by dy.

So I suggest you rewrite your integrand as

[tex]
2x\sqrt{x^4+4}
[/tex]

Then applying the substitution, your integral becomes

[tex]
\int_{1}^{9}{\sqrt{y^2+4}}
[/tex]

Can you finish from here?
 
  • #3
no, how do i integrate a sqr root with a squared number inside, the only format i have is for sqrt(ax+b)
 
  • #4
This is not so straightforward...are you familiar with the area hyperbolic functions (inverses of hyperbolic trigonometric functions)?
 
  • #5
no, any other ways
 

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