Calculating Surface Integrals with Stokes' Theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of Stokes' Theorem to evaluate surface integrals, specifically focusing on two examples involving vector fields and their respective surfaces. Participants explore the calculations and interpretations of the results obtained from these integrals.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with the application of Stokes' Theorem, noting that the problems seem harder than expected.
  • The first example involves the vector field F(x, y, z) = < x^2*y^3*z, sin(xyz), xyz > and a surface S defined as part of a cone, with a proposed answer of 2187*pi/4.
  • Another participant confirms the use of Stokes' Theorem and agrees with the second calculation, which involves a different vector field F(x, y, z) = < e^{xy}*cos(z), x^2*z, xy > and a hemisphere, yielding an answer of 0.
  • There is uncertainty expressed regarding the first problem's answer, with one participant suggesting it should also be zero.
  • Another participant corrects their initial assessment, indicating that the first answer is likely correct based on the calculation of 3^7.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the first problem's answer, with some suggesting it should be zero while others support the original answer of 2187*pi/4. The second problem's answer of 0 is generally accepted.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the parameterizations used for the curves and the orientation of the surfaces, which may affect the evaluations of the integrals.

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I expected Stokes theorem to make my life easier but these problems are even harder than the normal ones I've been doing.


Use Stokes' Theorem to evaluate [tex]\int\int_ScurlFdS[/tex]

where F(x, y, z) = < x^2*y^3*z, sin(xyz) ,xyz >

S: Part of cone [tex]y^2 = x^2 + z^2[/tex] that lies between the planes y = 0 and y = 3 oriented in the direction of the positive y - axis.

not sure about this one... I parameterized the curve C as r(t) = < 3cost, 3, -3sint > to get a curve with positive orientation induced by S having normal vector in pos-y direction...a circle in plane y = 3,
answer: 2187*pi/4

Use Stokes' Theorem to evaluate [tex]\int\int_ScurlFdS[/tex]

where [tex]F(x, y, z)=< e^{xy}*cos(z) ,x^2*z, xy >[/tex]

S: Hemisphere [tex]x = sqrt{1-y^2-z^2}[/tex] oriented in the direction of the positive x - axis.

curve C : r(t) = <0, cost, sint> ... a circle again in plane x=0, hmmm, wonder if I'm messing these up...?
answer: 0 (this seemed way too easy...everything was zero!)
 
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I assume you're talking about this verson of Stokes' theorem:
[tex]\iint_{S}\nabla\times\vec{F}\cdot{d}\vec{S}=\oint_{C}\vec{F}\cdot{d}\vec{r}[/tex]

In that case, your last calculation is correct; even if it is indecently easy.. :smile:
 
Even for the first one? The answer just seemed completely off considering its size.
 
At a glance, the first one ought to be zero as well..
 
Sorry, first glance wrong..
 
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If 3^{7}=2187, then the first should be correct as well.
 
thank you :)
 

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