Linear Algebra - Linear Constant Coefficient Difference Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving the linear constant coefficient difference equation x[n] = -x[n-1] + x[n-2] + x[n-3] with specified initial conditions. The initial attempt identified the roots as lambda1=1 and lambda2,3=-1, but further progress was stalled. A suggested approach involves constructing a linear combination of the roots, specifically x[n]=A+B(-1)^n+C n (-1)^n, due to the double root at -1. The correct coefficients A, B, and C can be determined by substituting the initial conditions into the equation. There is some debate about the nature of the roots, particularly regarding the treatment of the double root.
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Homework Statement



x[n] = -x[n-1] + x[n-2] + x[n-3] and x[0]= 0, x[-1]= 0, x[-2]= -1

We want to find "x[n]". When I started to solve this problem I acquired that lambda1= 1 and lambda2,3= -1. I couldn't do anything after lambda's are found. So, can anyone solve the remaining part?
 
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So I assume you used the ansatz
<br /> x[n]=\lambda^n<br />
?

well, just build up a linear combination from your three lambdas
<br /> x[n]=A+B(-1)^n+C n (-1)^n<br />
Because there is this double root at -1 you need to multiply one of the terms by n. Do you know this type of thing from ODE's?

Then plug in your initial values and solve for A,B,C.

This is a linear system of equations with three unknowns and solution A=-1/4, B=1/4, C=-1/2.
 
symsane said:

Homework Statement



x[n] = -x[n-1] + x[n-2] + x[n-3] and x[0]= 0, x[-1]= 0, x[-2]= -1

We want to find "x[n]". When I started to solve this problem I acquired that lambda1= 1 and lambda2,3= -1. I couldn't do anything after lambda's are found. So, can anyone solve the remaining part?

Pere Callahan said:
So I assume you used the ansatz
<br /> x[n]=\lambda^n<br />
?

well, just build up a linear combination from your three lambdas
<br /> x[n]=A+B(-1)^n+C n (-1)^n<br />
Because there is this double root at -1 you need to multiply one of the terms by n. Do you know this type of thing from ODE's?

Then plug in your initial values and solve for A,B,C.

This is a linear system of equations with three unknowns and solution A=-1/4, B=1/4, C=-1/2.

But it is 0 that is a double root so it is not (-1)n that you need to multiply by n! You should have x_n= A+ Bn+ C (-1)^n.
 
I think 0 is not even a single root. Plugging in x[n]=lambdan gives
<br /> \lambda^{n}=-\lambda^{n-1}+\lambda^{n-2}+\lambda^{n-3}<br />
or
<br /> \lambda^{3}=-\lambda^{2}+\lambda^{1}+1<br />
I think the OP's calculation of the roots was correct.
 
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