Fundamental Nature of Space Charges

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of space charges, their properties, and their relationship to fundamental particles such as fermions and bosons. Participants explore theoretical implications, the nature of particle existence, and the validity of established particle physics concepts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that space charges are fractionally charged particles with a fixed magnitude of 1/6, contrasting them with quarks, which have magnitudes of 2/3 and 1/3.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the reality of fermions, bosons, and quarks, questioning the validity of experimental evidence supporting their existence.
  • Concerns are raised about the interpretation of experimental results, suggesting that what is observed may not accurately represent the underlying reality of particles.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of studying physics to address doubts and inspire curiosity, while also noting that some may find such doubts frustrating.
  • Discussion includes the assertion that quarks cannot be isolated and that experiments typically detect quark-antiquark pairs, raising questions about conservation laws in particle physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and interpretation of fundamental particles, with some supporting established theories and others questioning their validity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the nature of space charges and the reality of quarks and other particles.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various experimental implications and conservation laws without reaching a consensus on their interpretations or the validity of the claims made about space charges and fundamental particles.

Antonio Lao
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Like quarks, space charges are also fractionally charged particles. But unlike quarks, the absolute magnitude of space charges is always 1/6 while that of quarks are 2/3 and 1/3. There are also two polarities (+/-) of space charges.

The grouping of space charges forms the elementary particles (fermions and bosons). Analogous to the energy levels of atoms, space charges are formed by levels of existence (LOE). The LOEs determine the mass of the space charges.

In order for space charges to form fermions or boson, they must acquire eight directional invariance properties. These are the top-right-front, top-right-back, down-right-front, down-right-back, top-left-front, top-left-back, down-left-front, down-left-back.
 
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very good antonio. but i must say, i do not believe fermions and bosons, or quarks at for that matter, are even real. they say they have proof for them, they little maps they make when they break a proton or another subatomic particle apart, but how are they sure that that is what it really is? how are they sure it is not just something completely different?
 
christian dude 27 said:
but how are they sure that that is what it really is? how are they sure it is not just something completely different?

All your clouds and fogs of doubt can be lifted if you start seriously studying physics and truly understand all its experimental implications. For some of us, the 1st ray of doubt generates wonderment, awe, and interest to know more, but for some, it created just the opposite. The 1st is called inspiration, the 2nd is called exasperation.
 
Antonio Lao said:
All your clouds and fogs of doubt can be lifted if you start seriously studying physics and truly understand all its experimental implications. For some of us, the 1st ray of doubt generates wonderment, awe, and interest to know more, but for some, it created just the opposite. The 1st is called inspiration, the 2nd is called exasperation.

That's not answering christian_dude_27's question.

Quarks decay almost instantly when not part of a larger particle, yet for every proton and neutron in the universe, there had to have existed 3 quarks.

The odds do seem somewhat extreme.
 
AWolf,

I thought quarks could never be isolated. Experiments always detect quark-antiquark pairs not the quark by itself. Experiments do not violate the conservation of linear momentum. I could have explain this conservation law to christian dude 27 but then I also need to explain all the other laws of physics. I might as well give a course of lectures for our mutual threader friend.
 

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