How Many Words of Length r with k Distinct Letters?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the number of words of length r that can be formed using exactly k distinct letters from an alphabet of size n. It explores recursive relationships, generating functions, and combinatorial methods to derive the solution.

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  • One participant presents a recursive formula for the number of words, a_{k,r}, and attempts to derive a generating function.
  • Another participant questions the validity of the generating function approach, noting a contradiction in the evaluation of f_k(1) and suggests an alternative method involving combinatorial selection of letters.
  • A third participant agrees with the alternative approach and provides a formula for counting r-letter words that use all k letters, employing the principle of inclusion-exclusion.
  • Further, they express a desire to verify a combinatorial identity related to the number of arrangements of letters.
  • Another participant confirms the validity of the combinatorial identity and offers a proof involving derivatives, contributing to the ongoing exploration of the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the best approach to solve the problem, with no consensus reached on the most effective method. Some participants support the use of generating functions, while others prefer combinatorial methods.

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Participants note limitations in their approaches, including the conditions under which the generating function is valid and the complexity of deriving coefficients from nested sums.

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ere me now.

I'm trying to figure out how many words of length r having exactly k distinct letters can be made with an alphabet of size n. Call this number a_k,r. It satisfies the recursion

a_{k,r} = ka_{k,r-1} + (n-k+1)a_{k-1,r-1}

a_{1,r} = n for r >= 1
a_{k,r} = 0 for r < k

My best effort so far is to use a generating function as follows

f_k(x) = \sum_{r=1}^{\infty}a_{k,r}x^r

and use the recursion formula to get

f_k(x) = \frac{(n-k+1)x}{1-kx}f_{k-1}(x) = \frac{x^{k-1}(n-1)(n-2)...(n-k+1)}<br /> {(1-x)(1-2x)...(1-kx)}f_1(x)

or since f_1(x) = n/(1-x),

f_k(x) = \frac{(k-1)!\left(^n_{k-1} \right)x^{k-1}}{(1-x)(1-2x)...(1-kx)}

I'm having a well difficult time getting the coefficient of x^r (which would be a_k,r) in the expansion of this. Is there a way to simplify it so you don't have k nested sums? thanks.
 
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I am trying to follow your approach and the f's confuse me: the problem I have is that
f_{k}(1) = \sum_{r=1}^{\infty} a_{k,r} \geq 1,
but by your recursion relation we have
\frac{f_{k}(1)}{f_{k-1}(1)} = \frac{n-k+1}{1-k}.
The right hand side must be positive while the left must be negative. This means either I have misunderstood something or you have...

I am sure some combinatorist has got a simply answer for this... but pending them stating what it is here is a way to at least reduce the problem.

First find how many ways to pick k distinct letters from the alphabet with n letters (order of picking not important). Consider these letters as a sub-alphabet.

From this sub-alphabet you will need to create words that are length r and use every letter. If you find this number then you can multiply by the previous to obtain the answer.

Please tell me if you find a simple answer and\or which one of us made the mistake.
 
Yes, the series expansion for the f_k's is only valid for |x| < 1/k. But
your suggested way of doing it is a lot better. For an alphabet of k letters,
the number b_k,r of r-letter words which have all k letters is k^r minus the number
of words in which at least one of the letters is absent. I calculated the
latter using the sieve principle as

# of r-letter words missing at least 1 of the k letters =


\left( ^{k}_{1} \right)(k-1)^r - \left( ^{k}_{2} \right)(k-2)^r +...+<br /> (-1)^{k}\left( ^{k}_{k-1} \right)<br /> = \sum_{j=1}^{k-1}(-1)^{j-1}\left( ^{k}_{j} \right)(k-j)^r

Then subtracting this from k^r gives

b_{k,r} =\sum_{j=0}^{k-1}(-1)^{j}\left( ^{k}_{j} \right)(k-j)^r

As you said, to generalize this to n > k letters in the alphabet, multiply
b_k,r by choose(n,k) to get

a_{k,r} = \left( ^{n}_{k} \right)b_{k,r}

For the special case k = r, this should simplify to


a_{r,r} = r!\left( ^{n}_{r} \right)

I've been trying to verify by induction that

\sum_{j=0}^{r-1}(-1)^{j}\left( ^{r}_{j} \right)(r-j)^r = r!
but I can't seem to do it. It seems to be true though, if you plug in small
numbers for r. Thanks for the tip! At least I'm making progress now. If you know of a way to simplify the above answer further, please show it.
 
\sum_{j=0}^{r-1}(-1)^{j}\\( ^{r}_{j} \\)(r-j)^r = r!

This expression is easy to prove by considering the r-th derivative
of (1-e^x)^r at x=0
 
Eero said:
\sum_{j=0}^{r-1}(-1)^{j}\\( ^{r}_{j} \\)(r-j)^r = r!

This expression is easy to prove by considering the r-th derivative
of (1-e^x)^r at x=0

Very cool. Thanks :)
 

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