So, what are the properties of space at the Planck length?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of "space" at the Planck length, exploring the conceptual understanding of space and its characteristics such as curvature, permeability, and permittivity. Participants express uncertainty about the nature of space and its representation in physical equations.

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  • One participant questions the existence of "space" by using quotations, prompting a discussion about the fundamental nature of space.
  • Another participant expresses frustration over the ability to discuss properties of space without a clear understanding of what space actually is.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the properties of space are merely numerical representations in physical equations, which are derived from experimental results rather than a true understanding of space itself.
  • This participant argues that the reality of space cannot be determined through experiments, positing that it is an identity problem rather than a balancing problem between distinct identities.

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Participants generally express uncertainty and differing views regarding the nature of space and its properties, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of space and the assumptions underlying the properties being discussed. The relationship between experimental results and the conceptual understanding of space is also not fully resolved.

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What are the properties of "space" at the Planck length?

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By putting space in quotations, I assume you are doubtful of it's existence?
 
Gza said:
By putting space in quotations, I assume you are doubtful of it's existence?

:cry: :cry: :cry:

No. But the question remains, "what exactly is ...space?"
 
And so that question will remain, I believe. It has always bugged the hell out of me, how we can talk about its curvature, permeability, permativity and a bunch of its other properties without having the faintest clue of what IT is. Or maybe I have to wait till grad school. :smile:
 
Gza said:
how we can talk about its curvature, permeability, permativity and a bunch of its other properties without having the faintest clue of what IT is.

It is because all these properties are just numbers in some physical equatons. They are all the effects of some experiments. The equations just use numbers to get other numbers and if both sides of the equations agree then the equation is correct and proceeded to become a law of physics from theory.

But the reality of space will not be determined by experiments. There is no such equation, not because no one has found it yet but is the fact that it can never be found. It's an identity problem not a balancing problem between two distinct identities.
 

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