What is the Relationship Between Induction and Charge Increment?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between induction and charge increment, specifically focusing on the process of charge induction and its implications in various scenarios, including real-life applications such as capacitors. The scope includes theoretical aspects and practical considerations of charge induction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that induction involves an increment of charge where the induced charge equals the difference between the source charge and the body, which raises questions about the validity of this conclusion.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the confirmation of the initial claim and relates it to issues encountered with a lossy capacitor.
  • A request for previous generalizations about charge induction is made, indicating a desire for a broader understanding of the topic.
  • A participant describes charge induction as the process of bringing a charged body near a grounded conductor, leading to the accumulation of opposite charges in the conductor due to Coulomb forces.
  • One participant emphasizes their focus on the intensity of induction under ideal conditions, specifically excluding electric field losses from consideration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial claim regarding charge induction, and multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the nature and implications of the process.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on ideal conditions for induction and the lack of resolution regarding the effects of electric field losses in practical scenarios.

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"Induction is a process of increment of charge such that the charge induced equals to the charge difference between the source charge and the body (which need to be charged) if the body is having an opposite and initial charge lower that that of the charging source."

This is what I concluded...am I right?...If I am, I got some major problems.
 
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No one can confirm this?...well I find it true...following this for a real-life lossy capacitor, I get problems.
 
Ok, what are the previous generalisations do we have about charge induction?
 
Hi there,

Since you seem to really want to have an answer on this one.

Charge induction is a very simple process which consist bringing a charged body near a grounded conductor. The charged body will, by the Coulomb force, "force" opposite charges to be accumulated in the conductor. Once this is done, the grounding can be cut off, resulting in a conductor having an amount of electrical charges distributed on its surface.

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Of course, I know that, but I made a generalisation and I want to see if its true.

I'm talking about the intensity of induction here under ideal conditions (i.e no E.F losses).
 
Of course, I know that, but I made a generalisation and I want to see if its true.

I'm talking about the intensity of induction here under ideal conditions (i.e no E.F losses).
 

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