How does light travel in a vacuum?

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The discussion centers around the propagation of light in a vacuum, exploring concepts such as the wave-particle duality of photons, the nature of electric and magnetic fields, and the challenges of visualizing these phenomena. Participants share their thoughts on how to better understand these concepts, particularly for those new to physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • A novice participant expresses difficulty in visualizing the propagation of light and understanding the role of massless photons within oscillating electric and magnetic fields.
  • Some participants suggest reading Richard Feynman's "QED" for a clearer understanding of the nature of light and its behavior.
  • Another participant argues that visualizing certain phenomena in physics, such as photon wave/particle duality, is not feasible and emphasizes the importance of accepting the complexities of these concepts.
  • A recommendation is made for the novice to study a good undergraduate text on Electricity and Magnetism to gain a deeper understanding of the fundamentals of light propagation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the complexity of visualizing light propagation and the importance of foundational knowledge, but there is no consensus on the best approach to understanding these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of different resources for understanding light propagation, indicating a dependence on personal learning preferences and backgrounds.

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Propagation of light?

Novice to physics:
I am have been attempting to visualize the propagation of light for sometime now, without very much success. I understand the orthogonally oscillating electric and magnetic fields, but I just can’t visualize where the mass less photon fits into the orthogonal fields picture. I guess the duality of wave / particle is attributing to my confusion. I am as well confused about how this propagation acquires its velocity or for that matter, what causes these fields to push forward. If the propagation is in some medium I seem to grasp the concepts, where the excited fields tend to ripple through similar to the domino effect causing excitation in the atoms in its path, but in a vacuum I end up totally confused about this phenomena. I can see easily why the belief in the ether was so profound. Could anyone shed some light on the visualization of the propagation of light for me?
Much thanks for any assistance,
Eric
 
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Try reading QED by Richard Feynman. It is as clear a discussion of quantum mechanics for non-experts as you can find. It goes into much detail as to the nature fo light, etc.
 
Eric_atl said:
Novice to physics:
I am have been attempting to visualize the propagation of light for sometime now, without very much success. Eric

This is where you are going wrong... you CAN'T visualise many basic phenomena in Physics. You have to learn what happens, and just accept it!

Visualising photon wave/particle duality (never mind quantum entanglement, uncertainty Principle etc) is just not 'do-able'.

QED is indeed a great book to help you understand the interaction and behaviour of photons...
 
Thank you

Thank you both for your response and your time. I will pick up this book and proceed from there.
Eric
 
Better yet, if you are motivated enough, I would recommend picking up a good undergraduate text on Electricity and Magnetism(I personally would recommend Tipler, but everyone has their own personal opinions) and studying the fundamentals in order to gain a lasting grasp on the subject. You can read all the layman's books you want, but to get any real depth on how light works, you need to start from the basics.
 

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