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The discussion revolves around how to graph the equation x = y + sin[y], with a focus on transforming it into y = x + sin[x] for graphing purposes. Participants explore various methods for visualizing the graph, including using software, creating tables of values, and plotting individual components of the function.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests switching the variables to plot y = x + sin[x] but expresses uncertainty about the graph's appearance.
  • Another participant proposes using graphing software or manually creating a table of values to plot the graph, noting that it resembles a sinusoidal curve rather than a straight line.
  • A different viewpoint involves plotting the individual functions y and sin[y] separately and then combining them visually to understand the overall graph.
  • One participant mentions the utility of finding the first and second derivatives to analyze the function's behavior, such as increasing/decreasing intervals and concavity.
  • A question is raised about the meaning of "graph in terms of y," indicating a need for clarification on terminology.

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Participants present multiple approaches to graphing the function, but there is no consensus on a single method or understanding of the terminology used.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the spelling of "sinusoidal" and the clarity of the term "graph in terms of y," indicating potential gaps in understanding or definitions.

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HI, please lend me some hints on how to graph the following equation in terms of y.

x = y + sin[y]

I know to plot it in terms of y, i should simply switch the places of y's and x's:

y = x + sin[x]

but i don't know how it looks like on the graph. Any idea how?

Appreciate it!
 
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There are two ways to figure out what the graph looks like: (1) Get some graphing software and have it do it for you (2) or do it yourself. If you will do it yourself, I suggest you first draw a table of values (one column for the independent variable(s) and another for the dependent variable). After that, just plot the values in cartesian space.

The graph of x = y + sin y looks like the graph of x = y except that instead of having a straight line, you have a sinosoudial (is that spelled right?) one.
 
Alternatively, for the graph of a sum of two functions, you could plot each individually and then kind of eyeball add them. For instance, your example

f(y) = y + sin(y)

Notice that f(y) is the sum of two functions, i.e. y and sin(y).

So you'd plot g(y) = y and h(y) = sin(y). Then you'd add them by thinking that the length between the horizontal axis and h(y) should be added to the length between the horizontal axis and g(y).

cookiemonster
 
Or you could find the first and second derivative, use the first for increasing vs. decreasing and the second for concavity.
 
I know what it means to "graph a function". What do you mean by "graph in terms of y"?
 

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