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Old Jun15-09, 08:12 AM                  #1
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Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

Hi Guys, Simple question; I'm trying to work out the transpose of Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) to make x the subject. I thought it would be x = arccos(arcsin(y)) / 2 however I don't think thats right. Is there another theorem I'm missing?
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Old Jun15-09, 09:01 AM                  #2
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

what's LaTeX Code: y^2 ?
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Old Jun15-09, 09:43 AM                  #3
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

that is meant to be divided by 2
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Old Jun15-09, 10:03 AM       Last edited by Irrational; Jun15-09 at 10:32 AM.. Reason: why doesn't \sin^{-1} work properly?            #4
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

LaTeX Code: y = sin(x) + cos(x)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow y^2 = (sin(x) + cos(x))^2

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow y^2 =  sin^2(x) + 2sin(x)cos(x) + cos^2(x)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow y^2 =  \\left(sin^2(x) + cos^2(x)\\right) + 2sin(x)cos(x)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow y^2 =  1 + 2sin(x)cos(x)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow y^2 - 1 = 2sin(x)cos(x)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow y^2 - 1 = sin(2x)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow 2x = \\sin^{-1 }(y^2 - 1)

LaTeX Code: \\Rightarrow x = \\frac { \\sin^{-1 } (y^2 - 1) } {2}
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Old Jun15-09, 10:36 AM                  #5
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

Thanks very much for that. Anyone looking for the rules for this, I've found them on http://math2.org/math/trig/identities.htm

sin(2x) = 2 sin x cos x

sin^2(x) = 1/2 - 1/2 cos(2x)

cos^2(x) = 1/2 + 1/2 cos(2x)
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Old Jun15-09, 10:38 AM                  #6
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

LaTeX Code: sin^2(x) + cos^2(x) = 1 should be one of the first identities you learn.
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Old Jun15-09, 11:05 AM       Last edited by Mute; Jun15-09 at 11:42 AM..            #7
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

You can put it into another form by noting:

LaTeX Code: \\sin x + \\cos x = \\sqrt{2}\\left[\\sin x \\left(\\frac{1}{\\sqrt{2}}\\right) + \\cos x \\left(\\frac{1}{\\sqrt{2}} \\right)\\right]  = \\sqrt{2}\\left[\\sin x \\cos \\frac{\\pi}{4} + \\cos x \\sin \\frac{\\pi}{4} \\right] = \\sqrt{2}\\sin \\left(x+\\frac{\\pi}{4}\\right) .

So, y is also equal to this expression and you can solve for x. Since you don't seem to be familiar with many trig identities, I used the sine "angle sum formula", LaTeX Code: \\sin(a \\pm b) = \\sin a \\cos b \\pm \\cos a \\sin b .
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Old Aug8-09, 06:09 AM                  #8
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

Suppose I was to change the equation to Y = a sin(x) + b cos(x). How would I transpose it to make x the subject? I've searched through identities on that site but can't find one that relates to having 2 different coefficients a and b.
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Old Aug8-09, 06:39 AM                  #9
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

Originally Posted by ZachGriffin View Post
Suppose I was to change the equation to Y = a sin(x) + b cos(x). How would I transpose it to make x the subject? I've searched through identities on that site but can't find one that relates to having 2 different coefficients a and b.
Think hard about how Mute's example works....
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Old Aug8-09, 06:57 AM                  #10
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

A bit more searching I've come across this:

a sin x + b cos x = R sin (x + alpha) which is an R Formulae with R = Sqrt(a^2 + b^2) and alpha = atan(b / a). If I use that I should be able to solve for x.

Having a look at Mute's post, what should I be looking for? It's been a few years since I left school so most of this is going back to that. I'd rather know how this thing works than just the answer so I'll keep looking.
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Old Aug8-09, 07:17 AM                  #11
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Re: Y = Sin(x) + Cos(x) Transpose

Originally Posted by ZachGriffin View Post
Having a look at Mute's post, what should I be looking for?
To derive the formula you just found by searching -- his calculation is the derivation of that formula, just in a special case.
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