Electric Field Question: Finding Zero Point Between Two Charges on Y-Axis

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The discussion revolves around finding the point along the y-axis where the total electric field from two point charges is zero. The charges are both negative, with specific magnitudes and positions given.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to set up an equation based on the electric fields produced by the two charges, questioning the correctness of their equation and seeking algebraic methods to solve for the position.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's setup, identifying potential typos and suggesting algebraic manipulations. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the equations involved, though no consensus on a solution has been reached yet.

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Participants note potential typos in the equations and discuss the implications of taking square roots in the context of the problem. There is an indication that the problem may not require advanced tools for a solution.

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I need a little guidance in this problem...

Two point charges lie along the y-axis. A charge of q1=-9 mu*C is at y=6.0m, and a charge of q2=-8.0 mu*C is at y=-4.0 m. Locate the point (other than infinity) at which the total electric field is zero.

So,

I made the statement

E1y = -E2y

and

Ke (q1/(r-4)^2) = Ke (q2/(r+4)^2)
or
q1/(r-6)^2 = q2/(r+4)^2

But that makes it very hard to solve for r. Is that equation set up correctly? If so, what is the easiest way, algebraicly, to solve for r.
 
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thebigbluedeamon said:
Ke (q1/(r-4)^2) = Ke (q2/(r+4)^2)
or
q1/(r-6)^2 = q2/(r+4)^2

But that makes it very hard to solve for r. Is that equation set up correctly? If so, what is the easiest way, algebraicly, to solve for r.
I think you have a typo in the equation above. Take the square root of both sides and simplify.
 
e(ho0n3 said:
I think you have a typo in the equation above. Take the square root of both sides and simplify.

I did have a typo...It was supposed to be a 6 instead of a 4 in the first equation.

Let me try this and hopefully I can solve.
 
Okay...so I took the square root of both sides of the equation, but that doesn't seem to get me very far.

I end up with:

sqrt(q1/q2) = (r-6)/(r-4)

And frankly I don't know how to solve for r in this situation. I could use Maple or something, but it seems that this problem shouldn't require that. I think I might have got the initial set up wrong.
 
thebigbluedeamon said:
sqrt(q1/q2) = (r-6)/(r-4)
Two problems: (1) another typo, and (2) when you take square roots you better be sure your answer is positive.

Your equation should be: sqrt(q1/q2) = (6-r)/(r+4)
And frankly I don't know how to solve for r in this situation.
Start by multiplying both sides by (r+4). It's a simple linear equation.
 
Of course it is. I just had a mental block. I wouldn't have caught the "(6-r)" though. Thanks for your help.
 

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