Accuracy of Pi: Arguing with Dad

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the accuracy of different representations of pi, particularly comparing the fraction 22/7 to decimal approximations of pi. Participants explore the implications of these values in terms of precision and provide resources for further understanding.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that 22/7 is more accurate than any decimal value of pi, while another counters that the decimal approximation 3.14159265358979 is significantly more accurate.
  • Another participant points out that 22/7 is not accurate to three decimal places, providing its decimal equivalent of 3.142857143.
  • A suggestion is made to demonstrate the difference in accuracy using a calculator to show the value of pi compared to 22/7.
  • One participant introduces the fraction 335/113, which approximates pi to six decimal places, noting its ease of remembrance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy of 22/7 compared to decimal representations of pi, indicating a lack of consensus on which is more accurate.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on the definitions of accuracy and the context in which these values are used. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in proving the irrationality of pi.

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My dad and I got in an argument about accuracy of pi values. He said that the ratio 22/7 will always be more accurate than any decimal value of pi. I said that the value 3.14159265358979 is much more accurate. I'm 100% certain that I am correct, but I can't really think of how to prove this to him. I'd also like to know how those values are measured, exactly. Thank you for your time.
 
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22/7 is an approximation to pi. It's not even accurate to three digits.

- Warren
 
22/7= 3.142857143. As chroot said, not even to three digits.

(It is, however, the best approximate fraction with no more than 2 digits in the numerator.)
 
To actually answer your question, you are looking for a proof of the irrationality of Pi. One such proof is http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~hr/numb/pi-irr.html Google for "irrational pi proof" to see more.

Of course, in this context, the best "proof" would probably be to show him a calculator, press the Pi key, and then enter 22/7 for contrast.
 
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thanks for the help, all... :approve:
 

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