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| Feb13-10, 10:14 AM | #1 |
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Derive Acoustic Pressure Relation from Ideal Gass Law
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Derive [tex]p(r) = \frac{A}{r}e^{j(\omega t - kr)}[/tex] from [tex]pV = nRT[/tex] 2. Relevant equations 3. The attempt at a solution From ideal gas law I have [tex]p(r) = \frac{nRT}{V}[/tex] R and T are constant, so I can pull them out now and replace them with A. If V is the volume of a spherical shell of thickness dr, I get [tex]p(r) = \frac{n A}{4 \pi r^{2} dr}[/tex] This means that the only thing that changes is the net flow of mass flowing into and out of my spherical shell. Which lead to [tex]p(r) = \frac{A cos(\omega t - k r)}{4 \pi r^{2} dr}[/tex] Putting this in exponential form I get [tex]p(r) = \frac{A}{4 \pi r^{2} dr} e^{j(\omega t - k r)}[/tex] Because the atoms are only moving radially, I can ignore the dr part. This leads to [tex]p(r) = \frac{A}{4 \pi r^{2}} e^{j(\omega t - k r)}[/tex] ...I'm still stuck with an [tex]r^{2}[/tex] in the denominator instead of just [tex]r[/tex]. I think I did something wrong somewhere. I'm not sure where. Any help is appreciated. |
| Feb13-10, 10:37 AM | #2 |
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[tex] \cos[x]=\frac{1}{2}\left(\exp[ix]+\exp[-ix]\right) [/tex] |
| Feb13-10, 11:03 AM | #3 |
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I know that the Euler relation is
[tex] \cos[x]=\frac{1}{2}\left(\exp[ix]+\exp[-ix]\right) [/tex] but quite I'm sure I've seen the expression [tex] \exp[ix] = \cos[x] + i \sin[x] [/tex] used in many places but ignoring the imaginary part so that it just becomes [tex] \exp[ix] = \cos[x] [/tex] Actually, it really bothers me, but I've seen it in so many places. I'm ignoring dr, in part because I'm seeking a particular result. As for rational, the particles are moving only as part of a sound wave, so they move parallel to dr. The pressure is force per unit area, and the area is perpendicular to dr...in other words, I need the pressure on a spherical surface rather than in a volume ( p(r) is net air pressure above the equilibrium). |
| Feb13-10, 08:46 PM | #4 |
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Derive Acoustic Pressure Relation from Ideal Gass Law[tex] \Re\left[\exp[ix]\right]=\cos[x] [/tex] That is, the real component of the exponential is the cosine term, while the imaginary, [itex]\Im[/itex], is sine. I think, rather than using volume, you should consider the density: [tex] P=\frac{nkT}{V}=\frac{nkT}{m}\rho [/tex] Then consider how the density [itex]\rho[/itex] would change with a wave. It is possible that you will actually want to integrate, rather than just ignore the infinitesimal radial projection. |
| Feb16-10, 06:10 PM | #5 |
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I think it might be simpler if I defined density [tex]n/V[/tex], so that
[tex] P=\frac{n}{V} kT= \rho kT [/tex] which leads to [tex]\rho = \frac{n}{4 \pi r^{2} dr}[/tex] Since the number of mols varies with time, I get [tex]\rho \cos(\omega t)= \frac{n \cos(\omega t)}{4 \pi r^{2} dr}[/tex] Conversely, I could hold the volume constant and let the number of mols (or the mass) per unit volume vary so that I get [tex]\rho = \frac{n}{r^{2} V}[/tex] At the moment though, I'm still stuck. |
| Feb27-10, 05:51 PM | #6 |
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I also have
[tex]\frac{1}{2}m v_{average}^{2} = \frac{3}{2}kT = \frac{3}{2}\frac{R}{n}T[/tex] this leads to [tex]v = \sqrt{3 \frac{RT}{nm} }[/tex] and [tex]T = \frac{n v^{2}}{3mR}[/tex] where m is the mass of a particle and v is the velocity. I also have [tex]F = \frac{dp}{dt}[/tex] Where p=mv is the momentum. I still can't derive this equation though. |
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