Could someone explain to me array notation

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "array notation," with participants exploring its definition, usefulness, and relevance in mathematics and physics. The scope includes theoretical aspects and practical implications of large numbers.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on "array notation" and its applications, expressing a desire to understand it despite feeling it may not be necessary.
  • Another participant suggests that while array notation may be useful for representing large numbers, they question its relevance to physics, arguing that large quantities in physics are typically handled with exponential notation.
  • A third participant expresses strong skepticism about the validity of the array notation described by the original poster, labeling it as a "strange machination" with no apparent benefits over standard scientific notation.
  • A later reply introduces a different notation used in combinatorics for expressing large numbers, referencing the Ramsey number and providing a recursive definition for generating large values.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the usefulness and validity of array notation, with some expressing skepticism and others attempting to relate it to established mathematical concepts. No consensus is reached on its applicability or benefits.

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Some limitations include the lack of clarity on the definitions and rules of array notation, as well as the potential disconnect between mathematical notation and its practical applications in physics.

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Could someone explain to me "array notation"

I found it here, but I still don't understand it. Though I probably don't need to know it, I want to. Also, will I encounter this anywhere else?

http://members.aol.com/hedrondude/array.html
 
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I understand it's useful for large number. I see these kinds of numbers as a field in pure math. I don't see how they can relate to physics or practical situations. From what I know, the largest quanties in physics can be delt with with exponentials (number of atoms in Universe, and such things). Large numbers may be encontered if tried to count something like how many total forces are presently acting in the Universe, but I'm willing to say most physicists never come by such numbers.
 
Yikes, this guy's a total crackpot. What he's describing is some strange machination he made up. No one in the world but him understands it, and it doesn't seem to have any benefits over normal scientific notation. Besides, look at the number of rules you'd have to learn to use it!

- Warren
 
I recall a notation for writing huge numbers that has been used in combinatorics.
(The actual symbol was an upwards arrow, but I don't know how to express that in Latex)

Let [tex]a?a=a^{a}[/tex]
Let [tex]a?^{2}a=a?(a?a)[/tex]
[tex]a?^{3}a=a?(a?^{2}a)[/tex]
and so on.

One humongous number (the Ramsey number, I believe), can be expressed with the following sequence:
f(0)=3
[tex]f(n)=3?^{f(n-1)}3[/tex]
The Ramsey number is given as f(63)..:wink:
 

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