Solve Simple Number Game in Your Head

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a mathematical puzzle involving a 4-digit number that is equal to two more than twice the reverse of its digits. Participants explore the problem's requirements and attempt to solve it mentally without external aids.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the 1's digit must be 4 or less to maintain the number as a 4-digit figure when reversed and doubled.
  • Another participant argues that at least one of the other digits must be greater than 4, introducing complications with carry-overs.
  • There are conflicting interpretations of the mathematical expression related to the problem, with one participant correcting another's formulation.
  • Several participants mention using computational tools like Excel to verify their answers, indicating a preference for different methods of solving the puzzle.
  • One participant asserts that the answer is 5992, while another expresses skepticism about solving it mentally.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the mental solvability of the problem, with some expressing confidence in finding the answer while others feel it requires written calculations. The correctness of the proposed answer, 5992, is acknowledged by some but not universally accepted.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the digits of the number and the implications of carry-overs in the calculations. The mathematical expressions used by participants vary, leading to potential confusion about the problem's setup.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in mental math challenges, mathematical puzzles, or those exploring number properties may find this discussion engaging.

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What 4 digit number is equal to two more than twice the reverse of its digits?
Do it without without using a computer or writing it down. All in your head.
 
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So nobody can do this? Its pretty easy to think about. Since it stays a 4 digit number, that means that the 1's digit of the number must be 4 or less, because once its reversed and doubled, it would be over 10, which would make it a 5 digit number.
Then you can think, well, since the 1000ths digit must be doubled then add two, and equal a number 4 or less(once its reversed), it can be : 0,1,5,6.

You can also do this by computer to check you answer, which is a most unfun way of doing it. a*1000+b*100+c*10+d*1 = d*2000+c*200+b*20+d*2+2
 
I can't do it in my head Surely one of the other digits will have to be greater than 4...and that involves carry-overs and related difficulties. Will need paper ! :cry:
 
Healey01 said:
You can also do this by computer to check you answer, which is a most unfun way of doing it. a*1000+b*100+c*10+d*1 = d*2000+c*200+b*20+d*2+2

Surely you mean:
a*1000+b*100+c*10+d*1 = d*2000+c*200+b*20+a*2+2

The answer is 5992[/color].
 
5992, of course :-)
 
Yeah, I used Excel. <cheater>
 

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