Solve Integration Problem: x^2/(x-2) dx

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function x^2/(x-2) with respect to x. Participants are exploring various techniques of integration, including integration by parts and substitution, while grappling with the complexity of the problem.

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  • The original poster attempts integration by parts and substitution, expressing confusion over the steps and results. Some participants suggest using substitution with u = x - 2 to simplify the integral, while others mention polynomial division and partial fractions as potential methods.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different methods and clarifying misunderstandings. There is recognition that constant terms do not affect the integral's differentiation, leading to a productive exploration of the topic.

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Some participants question the correctness of their results compared to a textbook answer, indicating a need to verify their calculations and assumptions throughout the integration process.

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After learning a few more techniques at integration and practicing the books thrown me in the deep end, giving me 50 integration questions with usually no clue of what method to use >_<.

Here's one I'm stuck on, and my working thus far:

Integrate with respect to x:

x^2/(x-2) dx
I rewrote it as: x^2.(x-2)^-1

I then tried to use integration by parts, thinking that eventually i would be able to bring the x^2 down to 2, and produce an integral i could solve.

V = x^2, dv/dx = 2x, du = (x-2)^-1, u = ln[x-2].

So:
x^2ln[x-2] - integral of (2xln[x-2])

So i thought i would need to use integration by parts again, to solve the above integral and bring the 2x to a 2.

Integral of (2xln[x-2])
v = 2x, dv/dx = 2, du = ln[x-2], u = ?, where's where I'm having problems, I've tried using integration by parts again to calculate ln[x-2] but simply can't do it, as the new expression is becoming constantly more difficult.

I thought about substitution, but i would need to take u = x^2, with du/dx as 2x, however, this would only produce u/(du/dx - 2) dx, which isn't going anywhere.

Some help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Finding the integral of ln(x) is easy. ln(x) is 1 * ln(x). In the integration by parts formula, take the part to be integrated to be "1" and the factor to be differentiated to be "ln(x)" (I think this translates to V = ln(x) and du = 1 in your notation, but I can't be bothered to check it).

Also, substitution will work for the original integral. Take u = x - 2, then du = dx and x^2 = (u + 2)^2. The integral turns into (u + 2)^2 / u du, which surely is trivial to integrate. Performing polynomial division on x^2/(x - 2) will also work.
 
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Muzza said:
Finding the integral of ln(x) is easy. ln(x) is 1 * ln(x). In integration by parts formula, take the part to be integrated to be "1" and the factor to be differentiated to be "ln(x)" (I think this translates to V = ln(x) and du = 1 in your notation, can't be bothered to check it).

Also, substitution will work for the original integral. Take u = x - 2, then du = dx and x^2 = (u + 2)^2. The integral turns into (u + 2)^2 / u du, which surely is trivial to integrate. Splitting up x^2/(x - 2) with partial fractions will also work.

Ahh, thanks. So subsitution did work. I totally forgot that i could set u as (x-2) instead of x^2., it makes it even easier as du/dx = 1.
Silly mistakes, it will come with practice i guess.
 
Okay, I've just done the substitution, using u = x-2 it becomes:

Integrate: u + 4 + 4.u^-1
= 0.5u^2 + 4u + 4ln
= 0.5(x-2)(x-2) + 4(x-2) + 4ln[x-2]
= 0.5(x^2 - 4x + 4) + 4x - 8 + 4ln[x-2]
= 0.5x^2 - 2x + 2 + 4x - 8 + 4ln[x-2]
= 0.5x^2 + 2x - 6 + 4ln[x-2]

But the book gives the answer as:
0.5x^2 + 2x + 4ln[x-2].

Is the book incorrect or have i made a stupid mistake somewhere?
Thanks for the help.
 
What happens to -6 when you differentiate 0.5x^2 + 2x - 6 + 4ln[x-2]? It becomes zero and vanishes.

To be absolutely correct, you have to say that the integral of x^2/(x - 2) is 0.5x^2 + 2x + 4ln[x-2] + C, where C is any real number...
 
So the -6 will just effect the constant? As this is integration - not yet solvable differential equations i should just skip the terms without x in as they just effect the constant?
 
So the -6 will just effect the constant?

Pretty much yes.

As this is differentiation - not yet differential equations i should just skip the terms without x in as they just effect the constant?

Yes, all constant terms can be removed and replaced with a single constant instead.
 
Thanks very much for the help.
 

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