Rice: More powerful than the Queen of England?

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The discussion centers around the ranking of Condoleezza Rice as the most powerful woman in the world, as reported by Forbes. Participants explore the implications of this ranking, the criteria for power, and comparisons with other influential women, including political figures and celebrities.

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  • Some participants question the significance of being ranked based on an unofficial position, as seen in the comment about George Bush's wife.
  • One participant raises the historical context of a black woman being labeled the 'most powerful woman in the world', suggesting it may be unprecedented.
  • There is a comparison between Condoleezza Rice and other influential women, such as Oprah Winfrey, with skepticism about Rice's ranking over Winfrey.
  • Some participants express political preferences, indicating support for Condoleezza Rice in a hypothetical election scenario against Hillary Clinton.
  • A participant humorously suggests that historical figures like Nefertiti might have held similar titles of power.

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Participants express differing views on the criteria for power and the validity of the rankings, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

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The discussion reflects varying interpretations of power, the significance of rankings, and the historical context of female leadership, with no resolution on these points.

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American National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice has been named the most powerful woman in the world.

The US President's right hand woman topped a list including politicians, royalty and showbiz names.

Second in the Forbes rundown was China's vice-premier Wu Li with Sonia Gandhi, president of India's Congress Party.

George Bush's wife saw her role as America's First Lady propel her to fourth with her predecessor Senator Hilary Clinton next.

In sixth and seventh respectively were American supreme court justices Sandra Day O'Connor and Ruth Ginsburg.

Indonesia's president Megawati Sukarnoputri was eighth, president of the Philippines Gloria Arroyo at nine and Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina placed at 10

The most powerful member of royalty according to the list was Queen Rania of Jordan at 13, nine places ahead of Britain's Queen Elizabeth.

Chat show queen Oprah Winfrey was ranked 62nd.

From business, eBay chief executive Margaret Whitman made an entry in 51st place.

Liliane Bettencourt, owner of French cosmetics giant L'Oreal was placed 79th.
Grooming Rice for 2008... :biggrin:
 
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George Bush's wife saw her role as America's First Lady propel her to fourth with her predecessor Senator Hilary Clinton next.
So being a former holder of an unofficial position makes them powerful? Uh, ok...
 
Has a black woman ever been labeled the 'most powerful woman in the world' before?
 
Hillary vs. Condi in '04?

Condi's got my vote!
 
Condoleezza Rice, more powerful... than Oprah? It can't be...

GENIERE said:
Hillary vs. Condi in '04?

Condi's got my vote!
I think it's more likely to be Howard Dean vs. Jack Ryan :smile:

phatmonky said:
Has a black woman ever been labeled the 'most powerful woman in the world' before?

Perhaps Nefertiti at one point...
 
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