Does electron oscillate in vaccum?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether an electron oscillates in a vacuum devoid of any fields and the nature of electric waves, particularly in relation to the motion of a test charge. The scope includes conceptual inquiries about electromagnetic waves and the behavior of electrons in fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if an electron oscillates in a vacuum without any fields present and seeks clarification on what electric waves represent.
  • Another participant asserts that there is no such thing as an electric wave and distinguishes between electromagnetic waves and electrons, mentioning that electromagnetic waves involve photons.
  • A participant introduces the concept of "zitterbewegung" but expresses uncertainty about it, suggesting further research.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the electric field as a component of electromagnetic waves, questioning if a test charge would move in a wave form due to electric lines of force.
  • Another participant responds that an electron in an electromagnetic field experiences continuously changing electric and magnetic fields, leading to slight oscillations, although the average effect is stated to be zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and nature of electric waves, and there is no consensus on whether an electron oscillates in a vacuum or how it behaves in an electromagnetic field.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of electric waves and the conditions under which electrons oscillate remain unresolved, and the discussion reflects varying interpretations of electromagnetic theory.

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does electron oscillate when its kept in space with no type of field or anything present ... and what does electric wave represent ? does it represent the type of motion a test charge will execute .
 
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Hi DeveshB ! Welcome to PF! :wink:
DeveshB said:
... and what does electric wave represent ? does it represent the type of motion a test charge will execute .

No such thing as an electric wave.

(And an electromagnetic wave involves photons (light), not electrons.)
does electron oscillate when its kept in space with no type of field or anything present

hmm … there's something called "zitterbewegung" which I never go the hang of :redface: … I suggest you wiki or google it. :smile:
 
sorry, i was talking about one of the components of electromagnetic waves--the electric field which is in the form of a wave, and as electric field is represented by 'electric lines of force' does it mean a test charge kept there would move in wave form? , as electric lines of force also represent the path traced by a test charge.
 
DeveshB said:
sorry, i was talking about one of the components of electromagnetic waves--the electric field which is in the form of a wave, and as electric field is represented by 'electric lines of force' does it mean a test charge kept there would move in wave form? , as electric lines of force also represent the path traced by a test charge.

oh i see now …

yes, an electron in an electromagnetic field will experience continuously changing electric and magnetic fields (you can't separate the electric field out), and although the average effect should be zero, the electron will jiggle about very slightly on a very small time-scale. :smile:
 

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