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The problem involves two stones thrown vertically upward with the same initial speed, where the second stone is thrown after a delay. Participants are tasked with determining the time and height at which the stones are at the same position, as well as the speed of the second stone at that moment.

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

A stone is thrown vertically upward at a speed of 45.50 m/s at time t=0. A second stone is thrown upward with the same speed 3.810 seconds later.

1) At what time are the two stones at the same height?
2) At what height do the two stones pass each other?
3) What is the upward speed of the second stone as they pass each other?

I'm pretty sure I could do #2 and #3, as long as I got some help first on #1.

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wd4gdz said:
A stone is thrown vertically upward at a speed of 45.50 m/s at time t=0. A second stone is thrown upward with the same speed 3.810 seconds later.
At what time are the two stones at the same height?


h1 = v*t - .5*g*t^2
h2 = v*(t-3.81) - .5*g*(t-3.81)^2
if h1=h2 , then
t = v/g + 3.81/2

if we have g = 10.0 and v = 45.50 , we get
t=6.455 seconds
 
Here, Ill write it out fully for you (with units), since Rogerio already solved it:

[tex]d_1 = Vt + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

[tex]d_2 = V(t-3.810s) + \frac{1}{2}a(t-3.810s)^2[/tex]

[tex]d_1 = d_2[/tex]

[tex]Vt + \frac{1}{2}at^2 = V(t-3.810s) + \frac{1}{2}a(t-3.810s)^2[/tex]

subbing in your values:

[tex](45.5m/s)t - (4.9m/s^2)t^2 = (45.5m/s)(t-3.810s) - 4.9m/s^2(t-3.810s)^2[/tex]

[tex](45.5m/s)t - (4.9m/s^2)t^2 = ((45.5m/s)t - 173.4m) - 4.9m/s^2(t^2 - (7.62s)t + 14.5s^2)[/tex]

[tex]-(4.9m/s^2)t^2 = - 173.4m - 4.9m/s^2(t^2) + (37.3m/s)t - 71.05m[/tex]

[tex]173.4m + 71.05m = (37.3m/s)t[/tex]

[tex]244.45m = (37.3m/s)t[/tex]

[tex]\frac{244.45m}{37.3m/s} = t[/tex]

[tex]t = 6.55s[/tex]
 
I have this same problem. I got the first part, but I have no idea where to start for the second part. Can someone give me a hint?
 
If you did the first part, then you know how to write the height as a function of time. And you now have the time. Plug it in!
 

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