Properties of probability measures

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The discussion revolves around the properties of probability measures, specifically focusing on the relationship between countable additivity and finite additivity. Participants explore the challenge of proving that a probability measure is finitely additive given its countable additivity.

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  • Doug presents the problem of proving that a probability measure is finitely additive, given its countable additivity.
  • One participant suggests considering sets that act as an identity under union to relate infinite unions to finite unions.
  • Another participant proposes looking at numbers that act as an identity under addition to relate infinite sums to finite sums.
  • Doug notes that proving P(∅) = 0 is necessary for the proof to be straightforward.
  • Another participant questions the implications if P(∅) ≠ 0.
  • Doug concludes with a suggestion that this leads to a contradiction.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the implications of P(∅) and whether it being non-zero affects the proof. There is no consensus on the resolution of the problem presented.

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The discussion highlights the dependence on the assumption that P(∅) = 0, which remains unproven and is critical to the argument being made.

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I hate it when a fact is so obvious that it isn't obvious how to prove it. Like showing that a subset of a finite set is finite. So ... here goes:

A probability measure [itex]P[/itex] on a [itex]\sigma[/itex]-field [itex]\mathcal{F}[/itex] of subsets of a set [itex]\Omega[/itex] is a function from [itex]\mathcal{F}[/itex] to the unit interval [itex][0,1][/itex] such that [itex]P(\Omega)=1[/itex] and

[tex] P\left(\bigcup_{m=1}^{\infty}A_m\right)=\sum_{m=1}^{\infty}P\left(A_m\right)[/tex]

for each pairwise disjoint sequence [itex](A_m:m=1,2,3,\ldots)[/itex] of members of [itex]\mathcal{F}[/itex]. Because [itex]P[/itex] satisfies this summation condition it is said to be countably additive.

The problem is to show that [itex]P[/itex] is finitely additive, that is:

[tex] P\left(\bigcup_{m=1}^{n}A_m\right)=\sum_{m=1}^{n}P\left(A_m\right)[/tex]

for each pairwise disjoint finite sequence [itex](A_1,\ldots,A_n)[/itex] of members of [itex]\mathcal{F}[/itex].

Anyone have any hints to toss my way? Thanks.

Doug
 
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Well, you might look at the LHS, and try to consider sets that act as an identity under union, so you can set an infinite union equal to a finite union.

Or, you might look at the RHS and consider numbers that act as an identity under addition, so that you can set an infinite sum equal to a finite sum.
 
The proof would be trivial if [itex]P(\emptyset)=0[/itex] but that too is a fact that must be proved.

Doug
 
Hrm, do you know any disjoint sequences of sets whose union is the empty set?
 
I would say there's only one: [itex](\emptyset,\emptyset,\ldots)[/itex].

Doug
 
So what happens if [itex]P(\emptyset) \neq 0[/itex]?
 
Aha. A contradiction. :smile:
 

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