A Q About Electron Diffraction

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The discussion revolves around the use of electron diffraction to investigate atomic arrangements and nuclear dimensions, specifically focusing on how varying the energy of electrons affects these measurements. Participants explore the relationship between electron energy, velocity, wavelength, and diffraction angles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that changing the energy of electrons corresponds to changing their velocity, which in turn affects their wavelength according to de Broglie's equation (lambda=h/mv).
  • The same participant proposes that knowing the wavelength and angle of diffraction allows for the calculation of atomic distances using the equation m*lambda=2*d*sin pheta.
  • For nuclear diameters, the participant mentions a similar approach, using the equation d*sin pheta min = 1.22*lambda to determine the diameter based on known wavelength and angle of the first minimum.
  • Another participant clarifies that typically, one does not scan through various energies to determine crystal structure, but rather measures intensity as a function of angle at a single energy.
  • This second participant identifies the equation mentioned by the first as Bragg's Law and suggests looking it up for further information.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the methods for using electron diffraction, as there are differing approaches and clarifications regarding the process of determining atomic and nuclear dimensions.

Contextual Notes

There may be limitations in the assumptions made about the relationship between energy, velocity, and wavelength, as well as the specific conditions under which the equations apply. The discussion does not resolve these aspects.

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Q: Electron diffraction can be used to investigate both the arrangement of atoms and the dimensions of nuclei. Explain how changing the energy of the electrons can be used to achieve this.

I need help again, but this time, not alpha-scattering experiment but electron diffraction.

What I think is that changing the energy of the electrons is the same as changing the velocity of the electrons. If you know the velocity then you know the wavelength of the electrons, due to de Broglie's equation (lambda=h/mv). And if you know the velocity and the angle of diffraction, you can work out the distance between the atoms by the equation m*lambda=2*d*sin pheta. For the diameter of the nuclei it's almost similar except the end bit: you know the velocity of electrons, so you know the wavelength by de Broglie's equation. From the equation d*sin pheta min = 1.22*lambda you can work out the d, the diameter of the nucleus provided you got the wavelength (which has been calculated) and pheta min, the angle of the first minimum from the centre. I'm not sure about this. Also, am I answering the question?
 
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What I think is that changing the energy of the electrons is the same as changing the velocity of the electrons. If you know the velocity then you know the wavelength of the electrons, due to de Broglie's equation (lambda=h/mv). And if you know the wavelength and the angle of diffraction, you can work out the distance between the atoms by the equation m*lambda=2*d*sin pheta. For the diameter of the nuclei it's almost similar except the end bit: you know the velocity of electrons, so you know the wavelength by de Broglie's equation. From the equation d*sin pheta min = 1.22*lambda you can work out the d, the diameter of the nucleus provided you got the wavelength (which has been calculated) and pheta min, the angle of the first minimum from the centre. I'm not sure about this. Also, am I answering the question?
 
You've mostly answered you own question. Often, however, you don't scan through various energies to find, say, the crystal structure. At a single energy (wavelength) you scan through various angles and measure the intensity as a function of angle. The structure can usually be determined from the Int. vs. theta plot.

PS : The equation you provided is called Bragg's Law - look it up for more info.
 
Thank you v. much. I'm going to read my physics book about what you said to learn more about them.
 

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