How Do I Solve This Complex Kinematics Displacement Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a complex kinematics problem involving the graphical addition of displacements along three paths. Participants are tasked with determining the magnitude and direction of the resultant displacement after following different sequences of the paths described.

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  • Participants explore the use of the sine and cosine laws to find the resultant displacement. There are attempts to apply vector components to calculate the magnitude and direction of the resultant vector. Some participants express confusion regarding the application of trigonometric functions in this context.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to solve the problem, with some participants offering guidance on using vector components and trigonometric laws. While some calculations have been presented, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach or final answers yet.

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Some participants indicate a lack of familiarity with trigonometric laws, suggesting varying levels of understanding among the group. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their previous calculations and seeks clarification.

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Encountered the following question. For (a), I repetitively found the answer 12 for magnitude of displacement and 131° for the direction; after being told i was incorrect...i need help: :confused:

Path A is 8.0 km long heading 60.0° north of east. Path B is 6.0 km long in a direction due east. Path C is 3.0 km long heading 315° counterclockwise from east.

(a) Graphically add the hiker's displacements in the order A, B, C.

What is the magnitude of displacement (km)? What is the direction of displacement (°counterclockwise from East)?

(b) Graphically add the hiker's displacements in the order C, B, A.

What is the magnitude of displacement (km)? What is the direction of displacement (°counterclockwise from East)?

(c) What can you conclude about the resulting displacements?


thanks.
 
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Sine & Cosine Laws

[tex]a=\sqrt{6^2+8^2-2*6*8*cos\ 120}[/tex]
[tex]a=\sqrt{148}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin\ x}{8}=\frac{sin\ 120}{\sqrt{148}}[/tex]
[tex]x = 35^0[/tex]

[tex]c=\sqrt{3^2+148-2*3*\sqrt{148}*cos\ 100}[/tex]
[tex]c=13\ km[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin\ y}{3}=\frac{sin\ 100}{13}[/tex]
[tex]y = 13^0[/tex]
The direction is (35-13)=22 degree
 

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Leong said:
[tex]a=\sqrt{6^2+8^2-2*6*8*cos\ 120}[/tex]
[tex]a=\sqrt{148}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin\ x}{8}=\frac{sin\ 120}{\sqrt{148}}[/tex]
[tex]x = 35^0[/tex]

[tex]c=\sqrt{3^2+148-2*3*\sqrt{148}*cos\ 100}[/tex]
[tex]c=13\ km[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin\ y}{3}=\frac{sin\ 100}{13}[/tex]
[tex]y = 13^0[/tex]
The direction is (35-13)=22 degree

i don't know what level physics that is...

but I am in 11th grade honors...

its the right answer, but i have no explanation

i'm used to the more adding/subtracting vectors, forming pictures and finding the resultants using trig functions...

but thanks, you did help
 
you don't know the sine and cosine law?
 
i know this...but no i haven't reached class with emphasis on trig

sin(angle)=opposite/hypo

cos(angle)=adjacent/hypo

im guessin that's not enough?
 
Using Cosine Law and Sine Law is a way.

You can get the magnitude and direction of the resultant vector ([tex]\vec{R}[/tex]) by using the components.

[tex]\vec{R} = (R_{x}i + R_{y}j)[/tex]
[tex]\vec{A} = (8 , 60^o)[/tex]
[tex]\vec{B} = (6, 0^o)[/tex]
[tex]\vec{C} = (3, 315^o)[/tex]

[tex]R_{x} = (A_{x} + B_{x} + C_{x})i[/tex]
[tex]R_{y} = (A_{y} + B_{y} + C_{y})j[/tex]

[tex]A_{x} = 8\cos(60^o) = 4[/tex]
[tex]B_{x} = 6\cos(0^o) = 6[/tex]
[tex]C_{x} = 3\cos(315^o)= 2.12[/tex]

[tex]A_{y} = 8\sin(60^o) = 6.93[/tex]
[tex]B_{y} = 6\sin(0^o) = 0[/tex]
[tex]C_{y} = 3\sin(315^o) = -2.12[/tex]

[tex]\vec{R} = (12.12i + 4.81j)[/tex]

[tex]|\vec{R}| = \sqrt{R_{x}^2+R_{y}^2}[/tex]
[tex]|\vec{R}| = 13.04[/tex]
[tex]\theta_R = arctan(\frac{R_{y}}{R_{x}})[/tex]
[tex]\theta_R = 21.65^o[/tex]

-Cyclovenom
 
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thanks..

makes much more sense
 

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