Solving Terminating Angles & Quandrants - f(pi)=-pi

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The discussion revolves around the concept of terminating angles and their corresponding quadrants, specifically focusing on the equation sin(x) = cos(x). Additionally, there is an exploration of the function f(x) = {x + sin(x)}/cos(x) and its evaluation at x = pi.

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  • Participants discuss the quadrants where sin(x) equals cos(x) and consider the implications of this relationship. There are attempts to clarify the function f(x) and its evaluation at pi, with some questioning the correctness of their calculations and the problem's wording.

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Participants have provided insights into the quadrants involved and have confirmed some calculations regarding the function f(x). There is ongoing clarification about the interpretation of the derivative notation and the evaluation process, with no explicit consensus reached on the correctness of the answers provided.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the problem's wording and the choices given for the evaluation of f(pi). There is also mention of the need to verify the quadrants and the relationship between sin(x) and cos(x) in the context of the problem.

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terminating angles??

If sin(x) = cos(x), in which quadrants can angle x terminate?
I have no clue what this question is asking.

also...

If {x+sin(x)}/cos(x) then f(pi) = ?

{pi+sin(pi)}/cos(pi)= pi+0/-1 = -pi

is that correct?
 
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1. Rephrasing : For what values of x does sin(x) = cos(x). Which quadrants are these values of x in ?

0 to 90 (pi/2 rad) is Q1
90 to 180 (pi rad) is Q2
180 to 270 (3pi/2 rad) is Q3
270 to 360 or 0 (2pi or 0 rad) is Q4

Have you tried drawing the curves of sin(x) and cos(x) ? What happens with these curves when sin(x) = cos(x) ?

2. Assuming you mean "If f(x) = {x+sin(x)}/cos(x) then f(pi) = ?", your answer is correct.
 
I don't know if this will help, however, where sin(x) = cos(x), x is in the first and third quadrants.

You may want to take a look at figure 9 here:
http://mpec.sc.mahidol.ac.th/physmath/mat12/curve810.jpg

EDIT: Woops! Gokul beat me to helping you.
 
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I understand, so it's quadrants I and III.

For the second question, the question just says If {x+sin(x)}/cos(x), then f`(pi)= ?
the choices are... (a) 2 (B) 1 (C) -1 (D) -2 (E) 0

I got an answer of -pi which isn't any of the choices, is there a mistake in the question?
 
UrbanXrisis said:
I understand, so it's quadrants I and III.

For the second question, the question just says If {x+sin(x)}/cos(x), then f`(pi)= ?
the choices are... (a) 2 (B) 1 (C) -1 (D) -2 (E) 0

I got an answer of -pi which isn't any of the choices, is there a mistake in the question?

Check again for the quadrants.

does F'(pi) stand for first derivative evaluating pi?

assuming it does.

[tex]F'(x) = \frac{1+\cos(x)+x\sin(x)}{\cos^2(x)}[/tex]

[tex]F'(pi) = 0[/tex]

-Cyclovenom
 
according to recon's link, sinX=cosX in the 1st and 3rd quadrant. SinX and CosX intersect between 0 and 90 as well as between 180 and 270 which are the 1st and 3rd quadrants. What am I missing?
 
The answer might just be hiding in plane sight (sorry, bad math joke).

[tex]sin(x) = cos(x)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{sin(x)}{cos(x)} = 1[/tex]

[tex]tan(x) = 1[/tex]

:wink:
 

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