Who Will Be the Next President of the USA?

[Loren Booda]

Which of the following categories do you qualify for?

 

[BoulderHead]

There you go.

 

[Adam]

I like the ieda of everyone voting for a third party and ending the two-party system (which is too easily controlled). However, since people won't do that, I recommend everyone vote for the option which has the best chance of removing Bush. It's only half a solution, but better than nothing.

 

[JohnDubYa]

I have a better solution. Australians don't recommend to Americans who to elect President of the United States, and Americans don't recommend to Australians who to elect Prime Minister.

 

[Gokul43201]

Adam is NOT an Australian. He is a Worldian.

 

[JohnDubYa]

Oh. So he can vote in our elections I assume?

 

[Adam]

How about "I'm allowed to have an opinion"?

 

[Dissident Dan]

I have a better solution. Australians don't recommend to Americans who to elect President of the United States, and Americans don't recommend to Australians who to elect Prime Minister.

Why do you have a problem with it? A person should be able to offer an opinion or advice regardless of national origin or location.

 

[Tom McCurdy]

I am an american and I am not voting for either person

the reason

i am not old ennough to vote

 

[wasteofo2]

Why do you have a problem with it? A person should be able to offer an opinion or advice regardless of national origin or location.

Because Republicans collectively have a strong case of xenophobia, along with an incapacity to handle dissent/disagreement, so if a foreigner wants something other than them, whoo boy, watch out na!


Of course Australians shouldn't (and don't) have any say in how Americans vote, but on a multi-national internet forum, I think they should at least be allowed to say "I am not an American but would vote for Kerry". I don't see what the big deal is Russ, have you ever heard of someone's vote being swayed by the opinions of people who don't live in their country? Hell, a poll recently came out showing that most every country in Europe besides Poland vastly preferred Kerry over Bush, some by margins of like 60 to 10, but did Kerry get any bounce in the polls because the vast majority of German and English people like him more than Bush?

Here's a link to a story about that study, with the numbers presented in the study: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3640754.stm

 

[BobG]

I have a better solution. Australians don't recommend to Americans who to elect President of the United States, and Americans don't recommend to Australians who to elect Prime Minister.

I suppose this solution also applies to Americans suggesting who should lead Palestinians?

 

[wasteofo2]

I suppose this solution also applies to Americans suggesting who should lead Palestinians?

Or Iraqi's for that matter

 

[Kerrie]

my opinion is, if you are over age 18 in america and complain about politics, you better be registered to vote...otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

 

[Smurf]

Either that or be doing something to overthrow democracy as a whole.

 

[fisipavia]

I cannot vote for any president american or any other. For us, puertorricans living in Puerto Rico, that right doesn't apply.

 

[fisipavia]

So, why should I care?

 

[wasteofo2]

I know next to nothing about Puerto Rico's legal status, but from what I think I know, it's like a territory of the USA, right? You do at least get to elect local governments, right? Obviously you don't have Senators, but do you have any members in congress? Do you pay federal taxes to the American government? If you pay taxes and don't have any representatives in the legislative branch and can't decide on America's leader, well that's just horrible, and you should try to do something about that. Hell, revolt if you have to, taxation without representation is one of the big reasons the American colonists revolted against the English.

Though if you plan on revolting, I'd advise you wait until Bush's out of office, he's got tons of the more radical guys from the Reagan administration on board, and you probabally know how the Reagan administration dealt with uprisings in Latin America.

 

[JohnDubYa]

If you pay taxes and don't have any representatives in the legislative branch and can't decide on America's leader, well that's just horrible, and you should try to do something about that.

Puerto Rico is perfectly free to vote themselves an independent country if they wish. But that would mean losing out on lots of benefits.

 

[wasteofo2]

Puerto Rico is perfectly free to vote themselves an independent country if they wish. But that would mean losing out on lots of benefits.

As I said, I have next to no knowledge about Puerto Rico. I'm going to take what you said on faith, that they can vote themselves independent if they want but won't because attachment to the USA is beneficial to them. However, don't you think that while Puerto Rico's current status may be better than they could do on your own, don't you think they should have some representatives in the legislative branch?


P.S. Kerry, landslide!
The poll shows that the entire amount of people in the world (on this sub-forum of a physics forum) who want to vote for Bush don't number as many as the people who are in America and will vote Kerry!

 

[Loren Booda]

Washington, DC's motto (on their license plate) is "Taxation without Representation." They pay taxes but do not have senators or a representative. The US Congress actually had tried to block this declaration of protest!

 

[kat]

P.S. Kerry, landslide!
The poll shows that the entire amount of people in the world (on this sub-forum of a physics forum) who want to vote for Bush don't number as many as the people who are in America and will vote Kerry!

Lol, further confirmation that the democrats really have lost touch with reality.

 

[wasteofo2]

Washington, DC's motto (on their license plate) is "Taxation without Representation." They pay taxes but do not have senators or a representative. The US Congress actually had tried to block this declaration of protest!

Now that's hilarious.

Lol, further confirmation that the democrats really have lost touch with reality.

'Twas a joke chica, hence the "(on this sub-forum of a physics forum)"

And honestly, the first president since the great depression to loose jobs, and he's going around saying it's the best economy in decades, and the guys who want someone else in office are out of touch?

 

[JohnDubYa]

http://ri.essortment.com/puertoricansta_rdla.htm (Puerto Rico and statehood)

 

[JohnDubYa]

The District of Columbia has no voting power for a very distinct reason -- since all three branches of government reside within the District of Columbia, some felt it would give the District too much power. The idea was to de-centralize government.

The residents of DC have no complaint. The lack of voting power was there before they arrived. If they don't like it, they should move somewhere else.

 

[fisipavia]

http://ri.essortment.com/puertoricansta_rdla.htm (Puerto Rico and statehood)

Wow...that page is … hmmmm, let's say "unbalanced". The analysis for statehood is way longer that for commonwealth and independence.

 

[Smurf]

The residents of DC have no complaint. The lack of voting power was there before they arrived. If they don't like it, they should move somewhere else.

I am getting really sick of hearing "If you don't like it, Get out!"

What If I don't want to move? My whole familly is here! What If I'm not like you, and I don't want to give up! No, I'm going to make this place better, instead of running away.

 

[JohnDubYa]

What If I don't want to move? My whole familly is here! What If I'm not like you, and I don't want to give up! No, I'm going to make this place better, instead of running away.

Why did you move into the area in the first place? And if living there is so bad, why do you want to stay?

This reminds me of families that move next door to race tracks, then try to shut down the tracks because of the noise.

If DC wants votes, let the district apply for statehood. Just be willing to allow all three branchs of government to move out of the area. I bet that would cook their geese.

fisipavia, I was only looking for confirmation that the people of Puerto Rico have voted on statehood in the past.

 

[physicsuser]

why this thread is name "President of the World"?

 

[fisipavia]

why this thread is name "President of the World"?

When I entered the thread for the first time I was also wondering the same thing... But then I realized it was probably started by someone from the US and remembered that many of them keep forgetting that US is not a synonym for world nor for America. So I just ignored that its tittle was “president of the world” and assumed he meant “president of the US”

 

[Loren Booda]

I named the topic "President of the World" for a number of reasons. The U. S. has, as far as I know, an electorate most representational of the world's nationalities. Also, our president - like him or not - has more influence over the people and policies of the world than any other leader. Perhaps ironically, America and its presidents, since securing our own liberty, have insured the freedom and independence for much of the world.