Finding the domain without a calculator

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The discussion revolves around finding the domain of rational functions, particularly focusing on expressions that include square roots and their implications on the domain. The original poster seeks to understand how to determine the domain without using a calculator, specifically for the function f(x)=(x-1)/(x^2+1).

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  • Participants discuss the importance of analyzing the denominator to identify values that would make it zero. There are questions about how square roots in the numerator and denominator affect the domain. Some participants explore the implications of imaginary numbers on the domain.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights into how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of square roots and the need to consider both the numerator and denominator when determining the domain. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is a focus on the conditions under which the expressions yield real versus imaginary numbers, particularly with respect to square roots. Participants are considering the implications of these conditions on the domain of the functions discussed.

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Finding the domain is easy with a graphing calculator but what if I was to do it without one. Is there a way to do it?

How would I find the domain of f(x)=(x-1)/(x^2+1)
 
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Well in a rational expression, you have to look at the denominator, because if a value is put in the denominator and it makes it 0 then it will go to infinite, so you have to solve the denominator and find the values that makes it 0, and in the domain you have to specify any value of the Reals except those values that makes it 0, of course in the proper notation.

In your sample, you should do x^2 + 1 =0 so, x^2 = -1 and x = sqrt(-1), so that will be x = i, so an imaginary number will make it 0, that's great so this means the domain will be all the real numbers, because no real number can make it 0.
 
what if the denominator had a sqrt such as sqrt(x-2)/(x^2-x)
 
what if the denominator had a sqrt such as sqrt(x-2)/(x^2-x)

I will assume the following:

sqrt(x-2)/sqrt(x^2-x) well factoring the deniminator

sqrt(x-2)/sqrt(x(x-1)), read above what i said about the denominator.

Now this is a little addon:
take for example the numerator sqrt(x-2), if you had a value like x=2, it will make it 0 right? what about if you had a value like x=1 wouldn't that make it sqrt(-1), whoa, so now it has gone out of the real numbers into the imaginary numbers... and a value below 2 will put it into imaginary numbers..., so what should the restriction be? obviously x>=2.

Now try to find the domain for this.
 
UrbanXrisis said:
what if the denominator had a sqrt such as sqrt(x-2)/(x^2-x)

Same idea; solve the denominator for 0. The domain is all those values that don't make it 0
 
so when there is a sqrt in the numerator, I must take that into account when finding the domain right? so it's different than just solving for the denominator is that correct?
 

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