Finding Angle Between Vectors: Urgent Problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle between two vectors A and B that have equal magnitudes. The original poster seeks assistance in determining the angle required for the magnitude of A + B to exceed the magnitude of A - B by a factor of n.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the magnitudes of the vectors A + B and A - B, with some suggesting the use of the cosine rule. There are attempts to clarify the conditions under which the magnitudes are compared, and one participant introduces a geometric interpretation involving a circle.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem's requirements, with some participants providing mathematical insights and others expressing confusion about the reasoning. A specific relationship for the angle has been proposed, but there is no consensus on the interpretation of the problem statement.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the magnitudes of the vectors are not explicitly given, and assumptions about their equal lengths are being discussed. There is also a mention of the strictness of the original question's wording, which may affect the interpretation of the factor n.

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Vector Problem URGENT

Two vectors A and B have precisly equal magnitudes. In order for the magnitude of A +B to be larger then the magnitude of A - B by the factor n, what must be the anle between them?

There is the question i need help on this quickly thank you for nehelp i know u have to use the cosine rule
 
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Have you worked out the magnitudes of A+B and A - B ?
 
no there not given you just know they are equal
 
Bertuzzi said:
no there not given you just know they are equal
I didn't mean the magnitudes of the original vectors. Let's say |A|=|B|=1 (the answer shouldn't depend on this number). If you let C = A+B and D = A-B , what are the magnitudes of C and D? Hint: to get the magnitude of an arbitrary vector, you take its dot product with...
 
sorry i still don't get it you must think I am stupid but i really have no idea how this will get a solution
 
the angle is twice the angle whose tan is 1/(n+1)

the angle is twice the angle whose tan is 1/(n+1).
 
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Please tell me how you got that thank you so much.
 
Let o be the desired angle; let the magnitudes of A and B be |A| = a and |B| = b; then let a and b = r, the radius of a circle. So |A-B| is the related chord of the circle: c = 2rsin(o/2). And |A+B| is twice the distance from the centre of the circle to the midpoint of the chord (call it x): x = rcos(o/2) =(n+1)c/2 [because you want |A+B| = (n+1)|A-B|]. So c/x = 2tan(o/2) = 2/(n+1); whence o = 2tan^(-1) [1/(n+1)]. I hope!

PS: Note that I've read the question fairly strictly -- perhaps too strict?
"In order for the magnitude of A +B to be larger then the magnitude of A - B by the factor n"

To me this is not the same as saying:
"In order for the magnitude of A +B to be n-times the magnitude of A - B." If that's what you meant then its 1/n you use.
 
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Thank you * infinity
 

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