How to Find the Coefficient of Friction for a Pulled Sled?

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The problem involves determining the coefficient of friction for a sled being pulled across a horizontal surface at a constant velocity. The sled has a mass of 20.0 kg, and the pulling force is 80.0 N at an angle of 30.0 degrees above the horizontal.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's First Law and the components of forces acting on the sled. There are attempts to calculate the normal force and frictional force, with some questioning the correctness of the calculations and assumptions made regarding the forces involved.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces acting on the sled. Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the equations for the forces in both the x and y directions, while others are clarifying the definitions of terms like normal force and coefficient of friction.

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Participants are navigating the problem with a focus on understanding the forces involved, and there is a recognition that the coefficient of friction is a dimensionless quantity, which is distinct from the force of friction itself.

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Ok here is another problem that I am stuck on!
A 20.0kg sled is being pulled across a horizontal surface at a constant velocity. The pulling force has a magnitude of 80.0N and is directed at an angle 30.0 degrees above the horizontal. Determine the coefficient of friction.
I think that Fn=(20.0)(9.80)(cos 30) and I know that uk=Fk/Fn and a=0m/s(sqr) but I am stuck on how to go about finding Fk?
Am I on the right track?
 
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You're using Newton's First Law [tex]\sum^n_{i=0} \vec{F_{i}} = 0 \Rightarrow \vec{V} = constant[/tex] that's good :smile: .

Now, Remember you got a weight pointing down, the normal force pointing up, friction that always points against movement, so in this case is pointing left, and you got a force pointing at angle 30 degrees, so put the force in its components Fy and Fx.

[Edits: I was just checking LaTex :biggrin:]
 
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If Fn is normal force then you are not calculating it right.
 
So is it W=20(9.80)=196N and then 80(cos 30)-Ff=0 and Ff=69N
I know that something is still wrong because I am still getting the wrong answer!
 
Y-axis:

[tex]F_{y} + N = mg[/tex]

[tex]N = mg - F_{y}[/tex]

X-axis:

[tex]F_{f} = F_{x}[/tex]

[tex]\mu N = F_{x}[/tex]
 
By the way your problem is asking:
Determine the coefficient of friction.
not the force of friction!

If you notice Coefficient of Friction has no units and its represented as [tex]\mu[/tex]
 
what is N, is that the normal force?
 
From what I did, your Ff is right, but you need to solve for Fn too.

Sum forces in each direction, set it equal to Ma

Sum in the Y = -m*g + Fn + 80sin(30) = ma = 0 // NOT ACCELERATING

Sum in the X = 90cos(30) - Ff = 0 // Not accelerating again.

So solve top for Fn, solve bottom for Ff, then use Ff = mu*Fn

I get 0.44 = mu_k
 
N is the normal force, yes, i represented it as such
 

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