Arithmetic-geometric mean inequality

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The discussion centers around the arithmetic-geometric mean inequality, specifically its proof for the case of \(2^n\) terms. Participants explore various methods of proof, including induction and inequalities such as rearrangement and Jensen's inequality.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the arithmetic-geometric mean inequality and seeks guidance on proving it for \(2^n\) terms.
  • Another participant suggests that the AM-GM inequality can be proven using the rearrangement inequality, which can be established through induction.
  • It is proposed that Chebyshev's inequality could also serve as a basis for proving AM-GM, but this requires understanding the rearrangement inequality.
  • Jensen's inequality is mentioned as a simpler proof method, although it involves considerable effort to prove Jensen's inequality itself.
  • A participant notes that proving AM-GM from the ground up using induction is possible but tedious, expressing personal frustration with this approach.
  • A link to an external resource is provided as a potential aid for the original poster.

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Participants express various methods for proving the AM-GM inequality, but there is no consensus on a single approach, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to use.

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Some participants note the complexity and effort involved in different proof methods, indicating that the choice of approach may depend on the individual's familiarity with the underlying inequalities.

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The arithmetic-geometric mean inequality is

a1...an<=[(a1+...+an)/n]^n where all of the a terms (a1,a2,etc) are non-negative real numbers. How do I go about proving this is true for 2^n terms? Thanks.
 
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There are many proofs of AM-GM inequality,
the smallest one i know comes from rearrangement inequality.
(Rearrangement inequality itself is easily proved through induction).

if u wish u can try to prove AM - GM yourself using rearrangement inequality (its pretty easy) else post back and i will sketch a small proof of it.

Another way to prove is using chebyshev's inequality which again can be proved from rearrangement inequality.

Another simpler way of proving it is using jensen inequality but proving jensen inequality requires some handy work.

Ofcourse u can prove AM-GM ground up using induction but really this is the most tiring proofs of all.

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since it is specifically for the case of 2^r terms (you have n meaning two different things in the same sentence), then some kind of induction ought to work since you can split the sum of 2^r terms into two smaller sums of 2^{r-1} terms and use the am-gm formula by induction on everything in sight.
 
TenaliRaman said:
Ofcourse u can prove AM-GM ground up using induction but really this is the most tiring proofs of all.

I spent a little time trying this last night...I tired rapidly and quit.
 
this would prolly save ur time,
http://nrich.maths.org/askedNRICH/edited/2731.html

-- AI
 

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