Electric Field Speed - Questions Answered

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the speed of the electric field in different media, specifically comparing its speed in vacuum and in copper. Participants explore concepts related to Maxwell's equations and the propagation of electric fields in various contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the electric field in vacuum travels at the speed of light in vacuum and seeks clarification on its speed in copper.
  • Another participant asserts that the speed of light in copper is less than in vacuum, but emphasizes that the comparison should be between the speed of the electric field in copper and the speed of light in copper.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about Maxwell's equations and seeks to understand the time it takes for the effect of charges (electric field) to travel along a wire.
  • It is proposed that the time for the electric field to move from the beginning to the end of a wire is equivalent to the speed of light in copper.
  • One participant requests documented sources to support the claim that the speed of the electric field in copper is the speed of light in that medium.
  • Another participant mentions that the relationship is a direct result of Maxwell's equations but does not provide specific documentation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the speed of the electric field in copper compared to the speed of light in vacuum. There is no consensus on the need for documentation to support claims made about these speeds.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference Maxwell's equations without fully resolving the implications of static versus wave solutions. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of electric fields and their propagation in different materials.

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Hi,

Does electric field in vacuum have the speed of light in vacuum?

If so, does it also in copper have the same speed of light in copper?

I and my friend have been arguing, and are waiting your response.
THANKS in ADVANCE
 
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Mohammad_93 said:
Does electric field in vacuum have the speed of light in vacuum?
What do you mean by this? Are you trying to analyze solutions of Maxwell's equations where there is no magnetic field? If so, then you can only get static solutions which have no speed at all. If you are talking about wave solutions then the E field and the B field both propagate at the speed of light.

Mohammad_93 said:
If so, does it also in copper have the same speed of light in copper?
No, the speed of light in copper is less than the speed of light in vacuum.
 
No, the speed of light in copper is less than the speed of light in vacuum.

No no, it's not a comparison between the speed of light in vacuum and in copper, but I'm comparing the speed of electric field in copper to the speed of light in the same material.

What do you mean by this? Are you trying to analyze solutions of Maxwell's equations where there is no magnetic field? If so, then you can only get static solutions which have no speed at all. If you are talking about wave solutions then the E field and the B field both propagate at the speed of light.

I don't even know Maxwell's equations,

All I want to do is know how much time the effect of charges (electric field) needs to move from the beginning of a wire to the end of it.

& thanks for reply
 
Mohammad_93 said:
All I want to do is know how much time the effect of charges (electric field) needs to move from the beginning of a wire to the end of it.
That is the speed of light in copper.
 
Thank you very much,

In order for my friend to be convinced and completely sure, do you have some documented source stating explicitly that this speed is the speed of light in copper?? It will be really helpful
Thank you very much,
 
I don't have any real documentation. It is a direct result of Maxwell's equations.
 

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